WTF Podcast

Episode 480 - Duncan Trussell

Marc has a soft spot for comedian Duncan Trussell thanks to a gesture of kindness at The Comedy Store. Now, in the garage, Marc gets a clearer picture as to why Duncan is such a nice guy. Duncan gives the details of the spiritual quest that helped him cope with the most difficult time in his life. This episode is sponsored by Harry’s, the best way to get a clean shave, and by Sirens on USA Network.  


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Juice Newton March 20, 2014 at 8:13 am

The drummer from the band Phish, is named Fish.  I’ve always assumed the band name was the drummers name with the acid-related Ph.

Vince March 20, 2014 at 10:48 am

Thanks Marc. This was a nice palate cleanser to get the taste of all the shitty, stupid comments made about Lena Dunham out of my mouth.

liz fitz March 20, 2014 at 11:04 am

My compliments to Marc for that powerful reading of Bukowski’s poem. Truly moving and added a lot to the show. Excellent conversation with Duncan - loved it. Thank you!

C Erickson March 20, 2014 at 12:45 pm

I second that Liz Fitz. Very powerful reading. Love Duncan and WTF. Thank you!

Noah March 20, 2014 at 12:54 pm

Just a fantastic episode, among the best 85 minutes of podcast I’ve ever heard. That is all.

Nikki March 20, 2014 at 1:46 pm

When I saw who the guest was today and then listened to Marc’s intro re: Lena Dunham’s episode eliciting a lot of nasty comments, I remembered that hateful statements aren’t exclusively internet-comment territory. In January 2012, a few months before Girls season 1 aired, Duncan Trussell and Natasha Leggero are talking about Lena Dunham on their podcast. They’ve recently watched Tiny Furniture and hated it. Here’s what Duncan had to say about Dunham and her movie:

“[Tiny Furniture] is just imitative. Whatever, that ol’ pudge climbed out of her fucking graduate school… I actually didn’t mind seeing her without pants. I would stick my face as deep into the folds of her vagina so that it would cover my ears and I wouldn’t have to hear her talk. I’d much rather have my head burrowed in an orifice of her body than listen to that awful cadence… I just don’t like, for some reason it’s that… it’s the NPR voice. It’s the worst thing. I mean, that’s one thing, that’s an art film and I see maybe some parts of it that are okay, I guess. But when you hear someone with that same kind of voice… on NPR… then it gets really annoying.”

In the category of awful things said about Lena Dunham on internet by men, this might earn at least an honorable mention. In the category of awful things said about women on podcasts, though, Trussell’s pal Joe Rogan takes the cake:

“We’re men and we understand men. And that’s why when women get together and they tell jokes about purses and shoes and 50 Shades of Grey or whatever they’re into, whatever their style of person is into, whether it’s feminist jokes. Whatever! They get together and they laugh at the shit they think is funny, and if you were there you’d be like, ‘Oh Christ.’ But for them it’s so awesome, they’re laughing, they’re LOL-ing, they’re saying stupid shit to each other that they like to hear. Why? Because they don’t have estrogen, or they don’t have testosterone, rather. They have estrogen. They have ovaries, they don’t have a penis. They have a vagina, they have a totally different set-up. It’s a different animal, it’s a totally different thing.”

Links: (around 8 mins in) (around 1 hr, 38 mins in)

Amador March 20, 2014 at 2:23 pm

Heard most of this interview during my lunch break today… good stuff!  Thank you for calling out all the misogynistic comments on Monday’s podcast.  I also enjoyed that you called out the US’s seemingly lack of vitriol against shitty corporations.

Marvydoo March 20, 2014 at 2:41 pm

Powerful poem, powerful delivery.  Enjoyed this interview, wish I’d heard a bit more about his work so I could check it out.

gods_mustache March 20, 2014 at 3:46 pm

Stop judging and choosing teams. Take a step back, and look at yourself shoveling babies into the mouths of Dragons.

NZ March 20, 2014 at 3:52 pm

Amazing show! Great talk!

& Marc did such a Fantastic job with that Bukowski poem that I wouldn’t mind listening to a whole CD of “Maron reads Bukowski”. And even after that powerful moment, Duncan comes in to deliver more goods. Very enlightening conversation, a pleasure to hear.

Robert Young March 20, 2014 at 4:35 pm

This was fantastic. These two paired a lot better together than I expected. Both of them were in the zone and right there following each other’s every word. One of the best WTFs I’ve heard in a long time. Granted I’m biased cause I love Duncan and have listened to him for dozens of hours between Rogan’s podcast and his own, but Maron really brought something out of him I hadn’t heard before. Well done gents.

SpitAndSpite March 20, 2014 at 5:10 pm

Nikki: Think he was just being ridiculous for comedic sake as he tends to be. Just listen to one of his rambling (and hilarious) intros. Completely over the top and well aware of it. I see how it does sound awful out of context (hell maybe within depending on your tastes) but I think he probably just really hated that movie and it’s wasp-y vibe perhaps?

I think covering his ears with her vagina to stop the NPR sound isn’t to be taken seriously.

Either way, I enjoyed both interviews.

h March 20, 2014 at 5:52 pm

Marc, you are right… it is like night and day in here compared to the last podcast’s comments.  What is with all the animosity towards women guys!?

Yaro March 20, 2014 at 7:06 pm

Hm. Not a big fan of Duncan Trussell or really anyone of Rogan’s gang, Redban, Diaz, Shaffir, Ryan. Their fanboys mistake those mostly drug-fuelled inanities with deep insights. It’s junkfood for thought, dummies. Go eat some more of those “get smart” pills which Rogan peddles on his show and listen to them giving ridiculous shills like Peter Schiff a forum for three hours straight.

@dr_revelator March 20, 2014 at 7:24 pm

Speaking on the 90’s “undocumented acid boom”, I grew up in a college town in west Texas—graduated from High School in 1990 and didn’t see LSD until just after the first Gulf War started in the late fall of that year. I always attributed it to that. I mean, in the immortal words of Jello Biafra in the Dead Kennedy’s song “Kinky Sex (Makes the World Go Around”, which is an imagined conversation between the ‘US Secretary of War’ to Margaret Thatcher discussing the need for a new war,

“Now don’t worry about those demonstrators - just pump up your drug supply. So many people have hooked themselves on heroin and amphetamines since we took over, it’s just like Vietnam. We had everybody so busy with LSD they never got too strong. Kept the war functioning just fine… It’s easy. We’ve got our college kids so interested in beer they don’t even care if we start manufacturing germ bombs again. Put a nuclear stockpile in their back yard, they wouldn’t even know what it looked like…”

So suddenly, at the end of 1990, right when George H.W. Bush needs it, every chemist on the Texas Tech campus was mixing LSD and it was being distributed in every nightclub in town.

By the way, I followed Phish on tours during 96 and 97 and later in 2000, and I NEVER saw as much LSD available as I did in the early 90’s in Butt-Fucked Lubbock, Texas!

Great Interview! Thanks Marc.

Oh yeah, fuck those assholes who were motivated to comment on Lena’s interview; I’m not necessarily one of her fans, but I do respect her work… those “people” who had to spew their hate are really suffering from emasculation since they’ve failed in their lives and have to tear down everything that’s better than them.

lindini March 20, 2014 at 10:22 pm

Hi Mark! This is my first time visiting the comment board but I just had to say what an amazing interview this was with Duncan Trussell. I had never heard of Duncan before this interview but everything that was said really touched my core and inspired me in just the way I needed in my life right now. An amazing interview and such a gripping conversation. I could have listened for hours. Thank you so much for making my week!

Michael P. Gowdy March 20, 2014 at 11:49 pm

I just read the Lena comments for the first time since that episode aired.
I know that Lena inspires a lot of hatred anyway (for whatever reason), but I think that a lot of those people are hardcore Woody Allen fans.
Mika from Morning Joe was on the receiving end of a lot of vitriolic remarks when she stated that she believed Woody’s accuser 100%.
I’m divided about it, man. I had an incident during my teens when I did high school swim class. A girl claimed that I groped her and said, “it’s great to see you half-naked by the pool like this” or some such nonsense. When I told other girls about these lies they literally said, “I believe you completely—that bitch is insane.” Recently my father revealed to me that it was even more serious than I believed at the time; he had conferences with the principal behind the scenes to avoid getting me permanently kicked out. It devastated me MUCH more as a teen than it would have today.
Sooooo… that incident informs a lot of my beliefs about such matters. Also, apparently mothers actually do implant lies in kids during bitter divorces.
The other side of the coin: I tend to judge people based on their past behavior. Does Woody have a history of such behavior? Of course.
So, as Scarlett Johansson stated, I don’t know. Lena doesn’t know. BUT I won’t direct any negativity at her. I’m sure that she is acting based on her own past.

Errand Wolfe March 21, 2014 at 12:52 am

Good fucking grief, Mark. Read the fucking book!

ColinJ March 21, 2014 at 2:04 am

I’ve always said that Duncan Trussell could probably become a cult leader if he set his mind to it.

He’s an incredibly engaging speaker, even when what he says is going straight over my head.

e March 21, 2014 at 3:30 am

hey people who dug this episode,

check out duncan’s podcast.

it’s more of this, like a lot more of this. and it can be really special.

Bumper March 21, 2014 at 9:53 am

Holy fuck that was a great interview! Never knew about this guy before, and I have so much in common with him. When you read the Bukowski poem, I started crying. Cathartic indeed. Thanks for this one.

Lazarus March 21, 2014 at 11:18 am

Breathtaking reading of the Bukowski poem Marc. I’d consider making an audio CD of you just reading your favorites.

Dominic Velando March 21, 2014 at 11:34 am

Holy fucking shit this might be my favorite wtf to date because it’s coming at a time when I really do feel like the party runs on blood and I’m trying to ask as nicely as possible for people to consider certain things, and then I try to kind of be a dick about it just to get people’s attention, and it just doesn’t matter. I’m glad you guys are out there and I can tell you that WTF has a donation on its way.

Also, I need new friends…

cloud March 22, 2014 at 12:36 am

Loved the interview, but I gotta say - listening to your chomping on food during the intro super-grossed me out. And on headphones? Brutal.

Ed Goman March 22, 2014 at 6:55 am

I really loved this episode.  It reminded me of the “new age-y” stuff I studied when I was a teenager 20 years ago.  But it put those things, (eastern philosophy, satanism, TM)  in a new context so I could understand them more deeply.  I know this might sound like hyperbole, but my spiritual life is different now because of the this interview.  Thank you

justin power March 22, 2014 at 6:04 pm

great episode. thoroughly enjoyed this.

AnnaW March 22, 2014 at 7:01 pm

I wasn’t familiar with Duncan before this interview but I’ve just fallen for him, and a little more for Marc and Bukowsi than I already had. The reading was beautiful, spontaneous perfection, and the conversation was inspiring.  If you liked the poem and haven’t read “war some of the time” from Sifting through the madness for the word, the line, the way, you might dig it. It’s got a similar mundane poignancy.  One of my favorites. Great show. Loved it.

Frank March 22, 2014 at 10:22 pm

Love the new episode, especially Marc’s reading of Bukowski’s poem. Really brings out the intensity of the whole thing.

@Nikki: That episode where Duncan and Natasha were talking about Lena Dunham, I think that was before Duncan’s diagnosis about his cancer. His spiritual realisation came after his cancer diagnosis. I think, looking back, he would have regretted what he had said before.

Gordon March 23, 2014 at 12:04 am

Thank god someone else was aware of the undocumented acid boom of the 90’s. It was all so great until William Leonard Pickard got arrested in 2000, cutting off the worlds supply of QUALITY lsd.

Kevin In Philadelphia March 24, 2014 at 5:09 pm

Really good again…but most of them are, right?

I have a question for marc, if he happens to read this and comment in an intro. During this episode, Marc said “Nothing is true, everything is permitted.” I know this phrase from two places 1) the Assassin’s Creed video game series and 2) the novel Alamut. I’m betting that Marc is not much of a gamer, but we know he is well read, so I wonder if Alamut is one that he’s gotten thorugh, and what he thought of it. If the source of this one is neither of the two options that I listed above, I’d like to know where he heard/read it.

Thanks Marc, Duncan was great.

NORN CUTSON March 24, 2014 at 6:15 pm

Thanks for havin’ Duncan on!
He really IS a Good Guy!

Jenny O March 25, 2014 at 5:50 am

Marc, while some of the comments last week about Lena Dunham were vile, you need to think more carefully about allowing guests to demonise men without calling them out on it. Dunham blames men for many of her perceived problems, and its endemic of the ongoing war against men and boys.

This was only a very mild example of that, but people - men and women - have had enough and though some of those comments last week were simply from 4ssholes, others were from people tired of coffee shop liberals like Dunham who unfairly label 50% of the planet as “privileged” or “bad”.

More balance, Marc.

ikdks March 28, 2014 at 9:22 am

There’s a documentary called The Mindscape of Allen Moore.  In it Moore says that if you do the will of your true self, you are doing the will of the universe.  Since you were written into the plan of the universe you will be one with the universe simply by carrying out that function.

RMoon March 30, 2014 at 12:18 am

That poem reading was ego jizzing at it’s finest. Way to fuck the flow.

Raul Antony April 02, 2014 at 11:06 am

Great podcast, though I did want to comment on the Satanism bits. I think it’s unfortunate that people latch on to the hate and anger parts of Satanism, yet completely ignore the large part that’s about loving life, having compassion for others (who deserve it) and being a positive, productive member of your community. We Satanists (I’m a Reverend in the Church of Satan) accept that hate and anger are *parts* of the human experience, and serve important roles in your psychology, but like you correctly stated, being full of hate and anger all the time makes you sick. I am glad that Duncan called out that Crowley is not Satanic or related to Satanism, that’s a very common misconception.

Fishsticks April 15, 2014 at 6:49 pm

So interesting. I listened to this one several times. Thanks, Marc.

Tim Doln May 20, 2014 at 8:51 pm

Loved, loved, LOVED this interview. I’d never heard of Duncan Trussel, but I was instantly engaged by his warm, positive energy. So smart, so deep, so funny. And Bukowski poem break was EPIC. And I loved that Duncan seemed to love having this conversation as much as I loved listening to it. I feel spiritually awakened and my eyes are welling up listening to you guys work it out. What the fuck!

Smitty July 02, 2014 at 5:00 pm

it must be half a billion people,Duncan;since about 2 million Vietnamese alone, were killed during that horrible useless war.