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Episode 372 - Adam Parfrey

Adam Parfrey had a profound effect on the brain of young Marc Maron. As the publisher of Feral House books and curator of the Apocalypse Culture series, Adam opened the minds of many unsuspecting readers to the weird, the marginal, the obscene and the mysteries of the world hidden in plain sight. Marc talks with Adam about the connections between Freemasons, Manson, JFK and more. This episode is sponsored by Stamps.com. Click on the mic and enter WTF to start a no-risk trial.

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  • 19 Comments


Ben Franklin March 25, 2013 at 12:27 pm


Thank God [sic] you started WTF and revived your career, Marc. Otherwise it’s pretty easy to imagine an alternative ending where you became a hardcore conspiracy nut alone in your garage. :(

Brad in Ohio March 25, 2013 at 12:35 pm


“Once you transgress, or once you cross a line, in action, you enter a magical space, and how you navigate that is up to you.”

—Marc Maron

Micah March 25, 2013 at 12:58 pm


Great interview, Marc. Parfrey was a big influence on me as well.

But jeez, as it goes, Crowley rhymes with holy.

TheKid March 25, 2013 at 1:27 pm


I Want To Believe!

Guest March 25, 2013 at 2:17 pm


I marinated in this stuff when I was a little kid, and it did warp my brain. It’s good to keep putting it out there though, people need to be reminded how complicated history is.

Illuminutti Apprentice March 25, 2013 at 3:07 pm


Some familiar topics… great break from the norm at the temple of mirth & mysteries that is Marc’s garage.
Hey… is there a secret handshake? ...is it in the book?

El Gran Falo March 25, 2013 at 5:52 pm


Brad, that’s a great Maron quote. But nothing can beat; “Stamps.com is so convenient - like having a Post Office right at you desk”. -Marc Maron

Words of wisdom my friends.

Lola March 25, 2013 at 8:12 pm


I really enjoyed this conversation. I’d love to hear more philosophical discussions. It is a nice break from all the entertainment stuff.

AJJ March 26, 2013 at 9:15 am


The American Christian Evangelical support of Israel is deeply rooted in the Book of Revelation and the belief that a Jewish state must exist before the return of Jesus and the Rapture. So, ironically, while the Iraq war was carried out by bunch of Masons, it was in the name of the type of religious dogma that Masons cropped up to counteract.

r March 26, 2013 at 1:53 pm


You should interview sotos, that would get pretty dark

Al March 26, 2013 at 7:07 pm


Great stuff Marc! 

It would be cool to hear you speak with some of the other zine provocateurs and associated characters.  Sounds like at least Boyd Rice has been in contact with you.

Crate&Trauma; March 26, 2013 at 9:56 pm


I read King Kill 33 back when you and Patton Oswalt talked about it on the podcast.  What a mind fuck.

By the way, I believe Parfrey said he’s up in Port Townsend Washington now?  So is he associated with the Loompanics Unlimited crowd.

JR March 26, 2013 at 11:05 pm


I gotta agree with the facebook comment above, i love this ep and the coop episode for the esotericism. Both were also hella life affirming. thank you.

Jason March 27, 2013 at 12:33 am


Great interview.  I’m surprised Parfrey didn’t mention the Masons’ enormous influence on the Mormons, especially given the Mormons’ growing influence in American finance and politics.

Sgt. Kaboom March 29, 2013 at 9:33 am


I think it’s obvious that Parfrey doesn’t believe (or even pretend to believe) the bulk of the theories he’s presenting. Two quotes I remember that he said during the interview were “Anything to provoke” and “My role is curatorial.” Parfrey/Feral House collects and distributes outlandish & obsessive theories and lunatic rantings as an exploration of the fringes of American society that mainstream media would rather not delve into. Whether the conspiracies have any grain of truth to them is pretty much besides the point, as a matter of fact, some of the ideas presented in the articles in Apocalypse Culture contradict each other the main importance is that these viewpoints are being documented. This is outsider art.

Obviously I love that the main focus of the podcast is to interview comedians, but I found the Parfrey interview (and the Coop episode) completely fascinating. Thanks so much Marc!

Al March 29, 2013 at 3:15 pm


Yes, as Parfrey writes in his introduction to the revised edition:

“The reader of ‘Apocalypse Culture’ will soon begin to notice a preponderance of material from individuals who have the audacity to consider themselves their own best authority, in repudiation or ignorance of the orthodoxy factories of Church, University or State. The constructions of these folk researchers may often seem wildly amiss, laughable, disreputable, but are more revealing cultural barometers than the acculturated pabulum of compromised and corrupt professionals.”

MeMeMe March 30, 2013 at 5:08 am


Some of the stuff Parfrey publishes is serious work, intended to be taken as such.  <i>You Will Die</i>, a recent Feral House book about the various American taboos, from shit to hard drugs, is one such serious book.

maron id April 02, 2013 at 9:07 pm


Well, I’ve got my “alternate” cred back with this one. I’ve dropped enough hints to my alternate lifestyle….approval of Adam & Eve, trolling trailer park swinger sites…..say Yes to everything my mistjess says….. I Marc Maron am a cuckold. No conspiracy behind this one

davit ohrbacht July 27, 2013 at 11:30 pm


Great to find this.  Feral House has been my favorite publisher since, well, since Apocalypse Culture and the early Amok Dispatches.