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Episode 245 - Todd Glass

Todd Glass returns to the garage for a very different conversation than the one he and Marc shared the last time. It’s an honest, open discussion unlike any other heard on WTF. This episode is sponsored by Stamps.com. Click the radio mic and enter WTF for a no-risk trial offer.

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Jordan January 16, 2012 at 5:22 am


Just got to the reveal. I was so anxious, I was thinking he was dying or something! So relieved haha oh jeez.

dude January 16, 2012 at 5:51 am


i love you todd and marc!

keep it real yo!

Josh January 16, 2012 at 6:33 am


@Jordan I thought the same thing. That or Todd was going to confess to a crime. Very relieved and now inspired.

Todd hit so many important points, many I’ve neglected to consider until now. Much love and respect. What a great episode.

Gina January 16, 2012 at 6:56 am


Thanks for the smartest, most honest interview I’ve heard in a looooooong time! I hope thousands of people hear this, it WILL enlighten you! Funny, insightful and necessary!

Brad January 16, 2012 at 6:56 am


Great episode! Strength beyond strength. Words empower people and they also take away other people’s power. I will thoughtfully try to remove certian words from my vocabulary. Much love to Todd for taking down his inner demons with a bit of honesty.

DCummings January 16, 2012 at 7:07 am


Quite a moving and heartfelt dialogue with Todd Glass.  As a straight man, I can’t imagine the turmoil a gay person has to endure to simply express their true nature to the world around them. Todd did a good job of sharing his feelings about what it took for him to finally be honest and open about a fundamental part of who he is.  One would hope that the human race - a dozen years into the 21st century - would be beyond the idiocy of condemning a person for whom they choose to love. Hopefully Todd’s message of: “Make it safe and comfortable for gay people to come out!” will resonate among those people who, as Todd so accurately stated, will be proven wrong for their homophobia.  Good on you, Todd, and kudos to Marc for being a supportive facilitator.

Erik Allen January 16, 2012 at 7:16 am


This made me a better person.

Diane January 16, 2012 at 8:19 am


When the interview started I was thinking ‘god I hope he isn’t dying of cancer or something’ but then was relieved when he came out as gay. I am glad Todd found the courage to publicly state his being gay and the desire to let others know they aren’t alone. That was such a great interview.

Peter January 16, 2012 at 9:23 am


certainly one of the best episodes ever.
thanks todd +  maron!

Evan January 16, 2012 at 9:32 am


I love Todd Glass, I’m glad he can do this and lift this weight from his shoulders and live a happier, more open life. Todd is truly righteous.

Leah January 16, 2012 at 10:13 am


Good for him.Respect all the way Great show Marc!!!

Ben January 16, 2012 at 10:59 am


I’m so glad this episode came out Monday.  I don’t think the Todd Glass Show would be funny this Friday.  This one takes a few days.  Deep.

Is Todd going to re-do all of his bits now? 

“Why would a bird live in such a queer neighborhood?”

vadgeman January 16, 2012 at 11:10 am


Vocally, Glass sounds like a combination of Ray Liotta and Lewis Black.

Bob January 16, 2012 at 11:47 am


I totally didn’t peg Glass as gay.  Totally not a big deal either way!  Congrats on coming out, man.  All the best to you.

Yo-Yo Da January 16, 2012 at 12:06 pm


Darth Lampanelli just felt a disturbance in the force. She fears that she might now have to come up with something better to defend her homophobic bits than, “AHHH, kahMAHHN, the fags LOVE me.” Do they, Lisa? (Whispers ominously) Do they?

Pachanga January 16, 2012 at 12:30 pm


You guys have great rapport and this was a joy to listen to.  Just one question: didyafuckdatshit?

tyler January 16, 2012 at 12:33 pm


Be who you are and say what you feel,
because those who mind don’t matter,
and those who matter don’t mind.
― Dr. Seuss

Beelzebud January 16, 2012 at 12:45 pm


Happy for Todd, bored with the episode.  :D  

You know we’ve achieved a measure of progress when this issue is brought up and my reaction was:  “That’s it?!”  Hell I thought he was dying or something.  LOL

David January 16, 2012 at 12:58 pm


Am I the only one who listened to this and really wanted to give Todd a hug?

Great episode, hilarious ending. Interesting that I always liked his comedy but was a bit apprehensive to as I felt he was kind of bro-y or something.

Pachanga January 16, 2012 at 1:19 pm


Er, anyway, now that the requisite podcast reference / joke is out of the way, I should add this:

As a fellow gay/homosexual/whatever-word-somebody’s-comfortable-with who attempted suicide at age 8 and thankfully survived, I just want to thank Todd for not trying to hide it anymore.  It’s much easier to be out, even if some people are dicks sometimes.  His podcast is my favorite (sorry, Marc), and it’s good to hear he’s coming to some sort of peace with his fears.  I wish I had something more profound to say, but I don’t. Bigots suck. The end.

slickleg January 16, 2012 at 1:54 pm


good man. lovely episode.

Allan January 16, 2012 at 2:13 pm


Todd’s podcast is fantastic but it always makes me think everything he does is a bit now smile I didn’t hear him swear to George Carlin so it makes me think that this is the mother of all extended bits (not really - but it made me smile).

Love ya Todd!

tyler January 16, 2012 at 3:17 pm


First Todd Hanson, now Todd Glass. Todd Barry better get to work on some really moving shit.

Ben January 16, 2012 at 3:31 pm


If you are interested about how queers are becoming more accepted but effiminate ones are not, this podcast is great context: http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/46/sissies

jarvisbearcub January 16, 2012 at 5:02 pm


Very, very happy for Todd Glass. A wonderful episode.

And super hot. There, I said it.

Annie January 16, 2012 at 5:40 pm


Congrats Todd! And thank you so much for sharing your story and inspiring others to strive for greater humanity.
Much love, Marc. Awesome!

Zak Zajac January 16, 2012 at 5:49 pm


That was fucking awesome! Great job on the interview as always Marc, and Todd, i fucking love you man. I’m a huge fan of your comedy and I’m super happy for you. Keep up the good work you two.

Ben January 16, 2012 at 7:51 pm


Fantastic conversation. I appreciate how Marc gently challenged Todd on a couple of points and allowed him to express how he was honestly feeling. It really IS a life-altering thing to come out, at whatever age, and the first few weeks and months after you come out can feel dizzying. Everything feels different because everything IS different. Anyway, good job to Marc and crew.

Julia January 16, 2012 at 8:26 pm


Very well done. Yay Todd! You’re awesome. I hope you went home and celebrated with a nice grilled cheese with candlelight and good china.

Ras Quilombo January 16, 2012 at 8:52 pm


what a great episode!...Many of the things said by Todd touched me quite closely…specially what he said about the issue of being black/being gay…iam black…iam not gay…and i’ve seen black people dismiss gay issues blatantly and that pains me a lot…as if prejudice and ignorance weren’t our real enemies…Thanks todd and marc for a great podcast…wtf gets better and better…

Robert January 16, 2012 at 8:54 pm


Great ep! Much love to Todd for committing to and following through on what I’m sure was a tough decision, and to Marc, for creating and maintaining such an authentic space for real human stuff to spring forth and thrive. With the all the BS that is spewed by one small segment of our population, it’s incredibly important to have as many warriors for truth and human decency as we can muster. I’m a huge fan of Todd’s comedy, so it’ll be interesting to see how, or if, his act changes over time to reflect his new self-acceptance.

I don’t want to bring it back down to stereotyping, but it made me chuckle a bit (in a good-natured way of course) to think back on Todd’s appearance in I Am Comic, and his manic interest in the proper interior designing of a comedy club. He was right of course! And so simple!

Chris Taylor January 16, 2012 at 10:43 pm


Hats off to you Todd.  Gotta admit, I never would have guessed . . . but then again, it’s not like I know you personally.  I was very impressed with your words and reasonings.  It is total bullshit that we still live in a world where people can’t just BE who the fuck they are without fear of persecution of some sort.  That’s as true of gay people as it is of atheist, as it is of any other group or individual who lives life outside the socially accepted “safety net” we’re conditioned to believe to be “the way” from the moment of comprehension. 

It’s funny, as I’ve gotten older (and since I’ve had kids especially), I’ve naturally eliminated the word “Gay” from my vocabulary when used in any other way than it’s defined version or to describe a “Gay” or “Homosexual” person.  I’ve just replaced it with “lame” or “dumb”, “stupid”, “unbelievable”, etc., etc.  However, I was totally unaware of this until listening to this pod cast when you mentioned the hurt/shame it could cause someone.  It made me smile, I naturally came to this on my own terms, I’m not unintentionally hurting anyone, or worse instilling any bullshit onto my children.  After hearing your reasoning, I will be sure it never slips back into rotation either.

Ryan January 16, 2012 at 11:16 pm


Goddamn you guys made me nervous.  At the beginning of the show I’m thinking “ok, Todd’s gay or dying”.  Then I get anxious thinking “oh shit, it’s cancer isn’t it!  Todd’s gonna come on the show and say he has six months to live!”  Then finally we get to the truth - Todd’s gay and I can relax.
Congrats Todd and thanks to both of you for a show that was as honest as it was funny.

Travis January 16, 2012 at 11:57 pm


I just want to say thank you for having the courage to bare your soul to the world. As a 29 year old gay man, I can relate to everything you felt and experienced. I’m still coming to terms with how comfortable I am letting others in, aside from a small circle. You, however, are positive push toward honesty. Thank you.

Harrison January 17, 2012 at 12:22 am


Todd, you are the FUCKING man.

Adam Carolla January 17, 2012 at 1:43 am


Sweet, more pussy for me!!

thanks Todd!

Mona January 17, 2012 at 5:45 am


Well done, best episode yet.  Thank you Todd.

GC January 17, 2012 at 7:32 am


I first heard about your podcast from Russell Brand’s twitter feed. That interview was great.  I also tracked down the Stewart Lee podcast on the castroller site, which was again very entertaining. I’m from the UK so I tended to sidestep some of the US ones on account of not knowing who they are. Yesterday though I noticed you getting a mention of towleroad, so I took the time to listen to that podcast too.  I have to say,  the Todd Glass podcast was wonderful. Many have faced the issues regarding sexuality that Todd has and your conversation together put those struggles so clearly into words. We need more honest dialogue like this in society, because so much of value comes out of out. It was refreshing and touching. Thanks.

GC http://funnyquotes.org.uk/

Azagoll January 17, 2012 at 7:36 am


Shit man! You’re just gay? Don’t scare me like that. I thought you might have stage 4 pancreatic cancer or something. All the best to you and your loved ones.

Joe Tily January 17, 2012 at 7:41 am


Personally i thought it was a bit over the top to hijack a whole episode just to come out to everyone. Why not do it on your own podcast? I personally couldn’t care less whether Todd is gay or not. I’m obviously in the minority who thought this episode was a bit redundant judging by the Love-Fest going on here . . . .

Sven January 17, 2012 at 10:04 am


On why Todd didn’t understand why the ad regarding saying gay isn’t cool; seldom do kids give two hot damns what a TV ad tells them. May it be drugs, suicide or how one should act in public, teens will ingore the shit out of it. The message might even get lost if they find humor in it or decide to do the opposite because the “adults” are telling them how to act again. I recall an ad from way back about a drug dealer walking towards the viewer. He passes through the shadows and talks about what he does. Each time he moves behind something or a shadow he turns slightly more into a snake. Finally he is close to the screen and hisses and is this cool looking cobra/drug dealer hybrid. I wanted to deal drugs so fast after seeing that!

jimjim January 17, 2012 at 10:53 am


one of the best episodes ever.  Todd and Marc, I applaud you for sending such a great message out to the world.  Everything you talked about hits home for so many people.  I hope people who still use hurtful language listen to this and smarten up.

Jackie January 17, 2012 at 11:22 am


Excellent episode, Marc and Todd. Everyone in our society needs to listen to this!

Passing Shot January 17, 2012 at 11:36 am


As someone the same age as Todd, and having come out some years ago, I’m so happy that Todd found the courage to be honest about who he is.  I’ve always liked him as a comedian and I suspect he’ll find his new honesty to be liberating both personally and professionally.  It is unimaginably painful to be in the closet and, as a black person, I really appreciated the comparison of potentially losing one’s closest support network upon disclosing one’s sexual identity.  (And think about what it’s like for LGBTQ teens of color, who may come from deeply religious communities!)  Anyway, thank you both for such an honest and compassionate conversation. 

Marc—you’re the best.

By the way, my captcha is “church12.”  Does this mean I’m going to hell?  wink

Impressed January 17, 2012 at 11:46 am


I’m halfway through listening.

So much is so powerful here.

They *nailed* the issue about derogatory references to things as “gay” (meaning contemptible and/or stupid).  If you (say, Vince Vaughn and Ron Howard) have been informed of what it does to kids, and you *still* use it, out of some kind of defensive pride or resistance to “censorship”—WTF???  As Todd said, it shouldn’t even be up for debate.  (I also appreciated the point that the pride is, itself, “being sensitive.”)

I also just heard:  “Why don’t you have a soul-searching moment NOW.”  Wow.

I’m about Todd and Marc’s age.  Even if you had some accepting, or potentially accepting, people in your family, I think some younger folks aren’t aware of how much contempt was in the air, everywhere—how unsafe (like, life-and-death unsafe) it was to be honest—back when we were younger.  It was rotten.  And, honestly, some in the comedy profession (I’m thinking Eddie Murphy, Andrew Dice Clay, Sam Kinison) absolutely did harm.  The truth is they contributed to suicides.

I additionally appreciated the response Todd wished he could have said to Dave Chappelle—while of course it’s not a “competition.”

Congratulations, Todd, and keep up the great work, Marc and Todd.  I’m a new fan of both of you.

Frank January 17, 2012 at 12:05 pm


Good of him to come out, more celebrities at all levels who are gay need to let the world know. But it’s also funny to hear somebody who has just got into an issue like this, and wants to share their naive feeling of revelation with the world. He got pretty gay there complaining about all the things he’s just now figuring out how much he’s butthurt over. But better late than never, and hopefully he brings a lot of young people with him.

brianmcomedy January 17, 2012 at 1:21 pm


Thanks for the show Marc and congratulations Todd.  A big moment and total respect.  I remember several years ago after the Michael Richard’s scandal, there were a handful of ignorant non-black comics saying things like, “So it’s ok for ‘them’ to say n****r but not me?  That’s Bullshit!”  I heard an interview with Todd and his response was, “Why do you want to say that word so badly?” Completely agreed and have been a huge fan since.  Continued success to both of you.

Doug January 17, 2012 at 1:28 pm


Very moving and funny.  And important.
Good luck Todd. Youve come so far. And You obviously know there’s a lot further to go.
Just listening to how hard it is for you to say ‘I’m gay’ speaks volumes. You deserve to say it without any reservation. that’s not a judgment, but a sort of prayer.

You both did something remarkable in this podcast. I hope it’s heard far beyond you’re usual listening audience.

Really? January 17, 2012 at 3:16 pm


Get a grip and stop being SOO politically correct.  I can’t believe I just heard Mark making appeals to Decency. You guys are so full of shit with the whole “gay” thing.  I hope Joan Rivers spits on your graves.  Go ahead and bash everyone else all you want, but don’t say a thing about homosexuals.
  The TRUTH of the matter is that every group of people is pejoratised by another group.  Just deal with it.  Everyone else does.  You guys are just as pathetic as the Christian Right, who go around with their own demands on society.  If you’re gonna claim that everyone is equally “sensitive”, then they’re also equally obnoxious and self centered.

Beelzebud January 17, 2012 at 3:28 pm


Oh look, the close minded bigot is tired of being oppressed by “political correctness”. 

Go suck a dick. 

smile

Really? January 17, 2012 at 3:38 pm


“Go suck a dick”....... that’s sexist and inappropriate.  How dare you use such “indecent” language”. You don’t know me.  So.  If you think I’m a girl, You’re an Obnoxious Pig and that’s Sexual Harassment.  If you think I’m a guy, You’re telling me to do “Homosexual Acts” as a put down.
  I’m not just a close minded bigot, I’m also “sensitive”.
Go be decent and Read a Bible. smile

Sven January 17, 2012 at 3:46 pm


How is “go suck a dick” sexist? And the Bible? Speaking of things that are sexist…

Greg January 17, 2012 at 3:53 pm


really, I listened for about 20 min but I asked myself “Why do I give a shit?” and turned it off..so he’s gay, lot of people are, who cares.

And how January 17, 2012 at 4:12 pm


Listening right now. Regarding the Dave Chapelle comment. No, it’s not a competition, but black families are not all embracing about being black. I’m sure there are homophonic gays too, but as a dark skinned black girl I always had to hear pity from my grandparents, aunts and uncles about how unfortunate it was that I turned out darker. The black community is not a safe haven.
Nonetheless I respect that there are other ways in which being gay is more difficult than being black, and they are both civil rights and human rights issues, that particular point just stuck in my craw.

And How January 17, 2012 at 4:16 pm


Great podcast by the way, really interesting, funny, and honest.

Defacto January 17, 2012 at 4:32 pm


Ok todd glass is gay, but was it needed to do a podcast just to say that? I’ve got gays friends and after I told them about this they got the same reaction I had, but hey, that’s why every single person has his own brain.

Really? January 17, 2012 at 4:48 pm


@sven Yeah “go suck a dick” is sexist.  Are you that ignorant? in 20 years I hope you right a book apologizing for being so bigoted.  It’s degrading and demoralizing to say stuff like that.  Do you think that having a Penis gives you the authority? And dick is sort of an offensive word.  It’s PENIS.
  And of course you’d say something derogatory about the bible.  I bet you’ve never read it.  but it just proves my point.  Once you cross the “tolerance” line and start proscribe “decency” you’re bound to be obnoxious and self centered.

... just like I’m being right now.

Sven January 17, 2012 at 5:27 pm


I’d like to just say my one and only comment was up there. The later, shorter ones I think are by somone trolling who is using the name I am.

acid January 17, 2012 at 5:37 pm


Excellent, touching, thought-provoking episode. Marc, I hope your discussion with Todd helps you rethink the shitty transphobic comments you were making and laughing at on the Steven Wright episode.

Ben January 17, 2012 at 5:50 pm


Let’s not fight on here and just be happy for Todd. He did a very brave thing.

sven2 January 17, 2012 at 6:37 pm


holy fucking shit! i chose sven as a made up name and it turns out somebody was posting already as sven. that’s an amazing coincidence. (seriously, seriously, seriously)

i don’t think “suck a dick” is sexist because it’s merely imploring someone to do something they find extremely distasteful. to suck a dick is distasteful to most men and a lot of women too. it’s not sexist not to want to suck dicks.

Thomasina January 17, 2012 at 6:41 pm


Great podcast; very interesting, insightful, and funny. I have one point to add about the Chappelle comment regarding the idea that the black and gay civil rights movements can’t be compared because you can hide that you’re gay but you can’t hide that you’re black. This is only true if you don’t know very much about American history; although it may not happen that much any more, there was a time not that long ago when a significant number of people with black ancestry whose skin was light enough did indeed choose to hide that they were black—to “pass,” a term that Glass himself used in the context of the closet. Conversely, there are some people who, through no action of their own, never have the option of hiding the fact that they are gay or that everyone (sometimes wrongly) assumes they are. Things are not as simple as “black people can’t hide but gay people can.”

not"sven"sven January 17, 2012 at 6:44 pm


i did read your comment, sven, so it might be that the name was floating around in my mind. that explains why it popped out so easily. seriously not trolling as the previous sven. also, i love todd glass.

Beelzebud January 17, 2012 at 7:24 pm


Funny how the person whining about this podcast being too “politically correct” got all uptight about being told to suck a dick.  wink

Sven January 17, 2012 at 8:06 pm


Spread my spores, spread.

ADifferentTodd January 17, 2012 at 9:12 pm


Good episode.  Todd Glass is among my favorites, and continues to be.  It was a little depressing to realize he’s been living 30ish years not comfortable in his own skin.  I hope the weight off his shoulders feels nice, and that he’s treated the same as he always has been, even from people like me who have no problems with gay people but may treat them differently on a subconscious level.

Mark January 17, 2012 at 9:19 pm


GLASS-MARON ‘12!  A really great interview.  Todd Glass is one cool mofo…he made a lot of great points.

big baby January 18, 2012 at 1:58 am


yo how could there possibly be two svens posting on here? big baby

Terence January 18, 2012 at 4:47 am


This was a great interview.

I actually understand where he’s coming from, both in terms of getting into a sort of comfortable closeted grove and in terms of how having PC friends doesn’t necessarily make coming out any easier.  I didn’t tell my parents and certain friends of mine for years that I was gay, not really because I thought they would disown me or be angry about it, but just because I didn’t feel like I had a very good reason to tell them.  I was dating and sleeping around, but I didn’t really have a steady boyfriend for long, so I figured why bother?  It just seemed weird and kind of unnatural to me to have to sit down and announce to them that I was gay like some cheesy after school special.  So I didn’t end up telling them until I had a steady boyfriend that I actually wanted to bring home for once and basically had to let them know (as I thought it would be even more awkward if I just casually said I was bringing someone home for Christmas then showed up with another dude like it was no big deal).  And not telling people wasn’t that hard to do, as like Glass stated, you kind of just fall into a comfortable role in which you don’t talk about your love life and people don’t ask you, and once you do that it can be hard to break out.

My issue was never that I had a problem with being gay or was ashamed about it, but rather just of finding ways to bring the issue up in conversation that wasn’t awkward or cheesy (in otherwords, in my case at least, fear over coming out was less about fear that I would be disowned or despised, and just more fear about general etiquette, as strange as that may sound).  I think there’s something very unnatural about “coming out” as a sort of “thing” that gays are expected to do (heterosexuals don’t have to come out, after all, it’s just the default state—heterosexuality is kind of just assumed),  however, I still don’t think we’ve progressed to the point, as a culture, where being gay is a complete non-issue, so it’s still kind of a necessary thing you have to do at one point or another if you are gay.  So it can be very hard to find ways of doing this that you feel comfortable with and which feel natural especially if you are someone who hates big dramatic scenes and doesn’t really want to make an issue out of it.

So, yeah, anyhow, my point is that even though homosexuality is more accepted in our society than it’s ever been, I don’t think that necessarily makes coming out any easier, so I feel for Glass and totally understand why he might not have wanted to announce it to the world in a formal way sooner.

Joybeharcatbath January 18, 2012 at 5:02 am


So fucking what.

As a straight guy with no prejudice whatsoever against gays, I am getting tired of ‘celebrating’ them. 

Be gay.  I don’t really give a fuck.  Just stop asking me to think of you as some kind of hero, for christ’s sake.

Oh, and stop fucking in public parks.

scourge January 18, 2012 at 9:34 am


“with no prejudice whatsoever ”  Yea right. You can feel the rage just dripping off your comment.  Oh, and plenty of straight people fuck in public parks, plenty.

Mark N January 18, 2012 at 9:52 am


As a straight white male who has never been marginalized, I am SICK of these MINORITIES FORCING ME to like them. STOP ASKING ME TO LIKE YOU. I have never had anything bad happen to me in my life and this is the only thing I can complain about.

Oh, and every member of this minority? Let me apply an insane stereotype to every single one of you, as a final screaming signal that I am far more bigoted than I say I am.

Dentist January 18, 2012 at 9:54 am


“So fucking what”

You should listen to the episode and see if you’re still asking that question.

I don’t doubt that you are a person who has no hatred toward gay people, but you don’t seem to understand the tremendous struggle it is to be ashamed of who you are and afraid to be your true self, fearing humiliation, abandonment and violence. Todd struggled with it for 30 years. People are not “celebrating” his gayness. They are happy the he is no longer living with such pain. Everyone should be happy about that.

Really? January 18, 2012 at 10:06 am


@beelzubud Not whining.  just proving my point.  maybe trolling.
  Kid’s who derogatorily say “that’s so gay” will also claim that its “not offensive”.  When i was a kid i was told not to say “that sucks” because it’s an allusion to felacio.

  point being: Todd Glass is spewing just as much vitriol as the Santorum supporting Social conservatives who think he should get treatment.

  personally, i don’t really care too much if you tell me to go suck a dick on a podcast website’s comment page.  But, I’m sure it offends someone.  i could make the same sort of “helping out the 12 year old kids” argument to say you shouldn’t say such things.

  So where do you stand?  All the chaos involved with Freedom of speech or being Close Minded and Politically correct.

scourge January 18, 2012 at 10:32 am


Hey :Really?”:

What was the “vitrol” that Glass was spewing? (I’m not sure you know what that word means).  And are you saying you really don’t see that difference between “that’s so gay” and “that sucks”?  Come on.

Really? January 18, 2012 at 11:32 am


@scourge
Vitriol: a corrosive acid?  isn’t it.
At around 33 minutes in.
  bla bla bla “it’s censorship, no it’s not, It’s decency”
40 minutes in “homophobic person, who’s Wrong, and maybe Religious”, “I watched those debates… it seams like we’re going backwards”

  this sort of stuff is acidic.  There are very few questions with a simple Right or Wrong answer. In a conversation about sexuality between Social Conservatives and Liberal Democrats, both sides will have strongly held beliefs.  And Both will say “You’re Dead Wrong” to their opponent. Both will say that we’re moving backwards.

  So if you’re going to get on a soap box and talk about how hurtful for a gay 12 year old to here the word “gay” as a slur;  if you’re going walk around feeling the pain of over hearing someone say that your lifestyle is Wrong; How can you be so obtuse as to demonize someone else by saying they are Wrong and Driving the Nation Backwards?

  “that’s so gay” and “that sucks” - they’re different, but i was taught that their origins are both derogatory antigay terms.  The question is how far do you want to take the idea of “decency”.

  It would be different if Todd Glass was saying, “I don’t like it when people say “gay” around me cause it used to make me feel bad”.  But he’s not.  He’s saying “No One should say that word because a gay kid might here it and might feel really hurt.”

  If you’re gonna preach tolerance, you have to live out with everyone, not just the other tolerant people.

Mark N January 18, 2012 at 12:08 pm


Popping in quickly again…
. > So if you’re going to get on a soap box and talk about how hurtful for a gay 12 year old to here the word “gay” as a slur;  if you’re going walk around feeling the pain of over hearing someone say that your lifestyle is Wrong; How can you be so obtuse as to demonize someone else by saying they are Wrong and Driving the Nation Backwards?
. This is some very imaginative false victimization you’re creating here. I have to give you credit for that. I’m sure you’re aware of the difference between having an _opinion_ that someone says is wrong, and having an _entire facet of your life_ that someone says is wrong (at best). Unless you’re being deliberately obtuse…
. >  If you’re gonna preach tolerance, you have to live out with everyone, not just the other tolerant people.
. This is the _point_ of preaching tolerance, no?

joybeharcatbath January 18, 2012 at 12:50 pm


‘Mark N’
Oh, I get it.  I’m a bigot because I don’t see gays as victims.  The “stop fucking in public parks” crack was a joke, mostly.  Christ.  I guess I momentarily forgot jokes about gays are off limits because gays are, apparently, also born without a sense of humor about themselves. 
The point I’m trying to make is this: acceptance doesn’t seem to be what a lot of gays are after anymore.  It’s the attention and reaction.  And it’s getting annoying.  If not true, why even announce you’re gay?  Why not just be gay?
I really don’t know why you brought minorities into it, either.  Seems like you’re projecting some of your own prejudice onto me, maybe.  Regardless, I grew up near Ogden Park in Chicago.  As a white kid, I was the minority.  But I never fucking cried about it.  So, go fuck yourself and play ‘victim’ somewhere else.

joybeharcatbath January 18, 2012 at 1:12 pm


Oh, and one more thing. 
I want to point out something none of you phony, congratulatory pricks will even notice.  I’m the only one on this board not setting gays apart from straight people. 
Why? 
Because pitying them victimizes them just as much as any hate crime would.
How?
Because what you’re really inferring is that you think there’s something different about them that merits pity.
Hypocrite, assholes.  Go shit in your hat.

Tina January 18, 2012 at 1:26 pm


Did Daniel Tosh finally come out of the closet by proxy?

JP January 18, 2012 at 1:40 pm


“The point I’m trying to make is this: acceptance doesn’t seem to be what a lot of gays are after anymore.  It’s the attention and reaction.”
Cool “not setting gays apart from straight people”, bro.

scourge January 18, 2012 at 1:55 pm


joybeharcatbath:

When a joke that isn’t funny is mean spirited and bigoted, than it doesn’t matter that its a joke.  yea, I get that the public parks comment could be a joke to you, but IT’S NOT FUNNY.  Jesus christ, Todd told an interesting story about how he came to understand himself in the context of both comedy and the larger world we live in.  That’s what most of the great WTF episodes are about.  It’s just you chose to get angry at this one because it hit a nerve with you.  I’m not setting Todd apart; he was just as interesting and truthful as Todd Hansen or Dr. Steve or Norm M. or anyone that choses to go on here and open up to Marc about something very personal: THAT’S THE FUCKING POINT OF THE SHOW.

TimJ January 18, 2012 at 1:55 pm


Cool ‘use of a fucked out meme,” bro.  I used to say that shit all the time until I took an arrow to the knee.

Victor January 18, 2012 at 2:29 pm


Good for you Todd. There are lots of hot, handsome, rugged, men who like men. I run the largest “gay” wrestling site in the world and guys are tough as nails. Man’s men. Wanna wrestle? LOL

Thanks for doing this. It WILL help a lot of people.

Really? January 18, 2012 at 2:54 pm


@Mark n
beg to differ.
  what one person calls an _opinion_ another calls _entire facet of life_.  If, say, you’re dealing with Christian Fundamentalists, then it’s not just an opinion, that is the core of they’re being.  So, No i don’t think its imaginiative false victimization at all. 

I’m saying that both sides are damaged(sensitive) and damaging(obnoxious and self-centered).  Social Conservatives make very few claims toward tolerance though. So at least they’re not being hypocritical.

  Where on the other hand, if you are preaching tolerance, you better live it out.  It’s intolerant to say that Anyone is flat out Wrong.

TimJ January 18, 2012 at 3:26 pm


Here’s what two infinitely funnier comedians (Louis CK and Nick DiPaolo) have to say about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVwmW9Vgo3c

scourge January 18, 2012 at 3:39 pm


Oh wow, Tim, a radio clip from 2008 that is only somewhat relevant. And sorry you are only half right, Nick DiPaolo is a fucking unfunny hack.

grind January 18, 2012 at 3:48 pm


todd glass’s next show’s opening line:

does this shirt make me look gay?

smile

thecooz January 18, 2012 at 4:50 pm


Todd,
        You are one of my favorite comedians of all time. Your Comedy Central special is something I watch over and over again and find something meta and cool in it each time.There are so many times where me and my friends use the phrase “DOSHE WERE DA DAYS!” in daily conversation. I hope you find peace with yourself because there are so many people that see a brilliant, powerful comedic mind more than whatever happens in your personal life. Love yourself buddy because there are a lot of people that do! Don’t let anyone get you down, you’re golden, bud.

MelissaM January 18, 2012 at 7:04 pm


Are there awards for podcasts? If so, this should win one. Honest, entertaining, humorous, insightful…thank you, Todd and Marc.

Rickard January 18, 2012 at 7:35 pm


Amazing, just amazing.
So heart warming and confusing at the same time. I have as much respect for Todd for coming out as I do for him “living the lie” for so long. I guess neither is a picnic.
Well anyway, it’s done now and i congratulate him for it. All the right reasons for doing it and I hope he finds the strength he deserves for it.

Mindblowing episode…

Hoyt January 18, 2012 at 7:40 pm


Scourge I’m pretty sure you’re being trolled.  Take a breather champ.  And Nick Dipaolo is one of the best comedians to ever walk the boards.  Ask any comedian who’s seen him do five minutes including the two in this podcast which was great.  Not sure why he’s being dragged into this.

big baby January 18, 2012 at 8:05 pm


i’m the fuckin big baby. yo maron, sup? big baby

scourge January 18, 2012 at 8:53 pm


Hoyt, yea hopefully the trolls have run away.  But Dipaolo blows and is so hacky, to me. But hey if you like him, thats great!  i love a lot of comedians that I know people hate.  I don’t have to be a fan just because he was on Maron’s show, champ.

LouisCK January 18, 2012 at 9:39 pm


Nick DiPaolo is the greatest comedian that’s ever lived.

TheRealLouisCK January 18, 2012 at 10:31 pm


Nick DiPaolo is a shitbag that for some reason is still my “friend.’

Trolololo January 18, 2012 at 10:57 pm


Scourge:

When you’re feeling like you’re ready to walk away from a thread as important as this one because you just can’t get through to some people, Hold on, champ.  Hold on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIbXvaE39wM

joshua-p January 19, 2012 at 2:44 am


This was an amazing episode of WTF. By some chance that you’re reading this, Todd, I want to say congratulations on your life moving forward.

TimJ January 19, 2012 at 10:46 am


Just curious, but do 12 year old gay kids ever kill themselves for reasons unrelated to being gay?  Has anyone checked into that? Because the ‘12 year olds are killing themselves’ argument feels just a wee bit contrived.

Kyle January 19, 2012 at 11:21 am


Great to hear this Todd, I love your awful prank show. So happy, that you had the strength to do this, you are truly an inspiration to anyone struggling with that.

Wilson Phillips January 19, 2012 at 12:54 pm


I know that there is pain, but’cha hold on for one more day and you break free from the chay-ains.

Jesse January 19, 2012 at 8:22 pm


Big fan of Todd. I’m glad he can live honestly and happily. Great podcast

rlottery January 20, 2012 at 12:01 am


I never do this kind of thing, but I really wanted to thank you and congratulate you on your bravery in doing this podcast. It was really, really incredible to hear someone articulate the plethora of issues I’ve been grappling with for a long time, and I hope that someday soon I can be as brave as you were. Also, fuck you for making me cry at work.

sweetjimmyt January 20, 2012 at 5:54 am


Todd, you ol’ devil.  Just when I thought I couldn’t like you any more.. Please reschedule a trip back to Portland!

Lisa Marie Mejia January 20, 2012 at 10:26 am


As a big supporter of this issue and a friend to that community, I want to say Thank You.

Nathaniel January 20, 2012 at 4:00 pm


So many lessons here, but the one that rings true to me is that we should never be ashamed to be empathetic.  We all have the right to say whatever we want, but it takes someone with big balls to not be embarrassed or concerned about being perceived as weak for being kind and understanding.

I’ve always supported my gay friends, but I don’t think I’ve ever heard it put so well why throwing out the word ‘gay’ to mean lame can be hurtful.  Ouch.  Lesson learned.

Mr. Glass, congratulations to you.  This is one of these cases where the personal story speaks volumes about why human rights are important.

Stephen Sneeden January 20, 2012 at 7:50 pm


An astoundingly honest dialog. Kudos to Todd for being so candid, and kudos to Marc for inserting the right questions and comments without getting in the way. Excellent interview.

bleh January 20, 2012 at 11:45 pm


i don’t think todd’s life was so bad that he couldn’t have been more outwardly gay earlier. 

to him it was more important to not be perceived with a label, perhaps because of his career, it seems like he’s blaming an extreme segment of society that he wasn’t a part of, for something he didn’t have the guts to stand up and take the risk to grab for himself. 

but still, congratulations to him.  i’m sure many will benefit from his experience and honesty.

Jasmine Good January 22, 2012 at 2:18 am


Holy Shit - TG is 47!
I hope Todd makes his PRO EVERYTHING flag.

Michael Earley January 23, 2012 at 2:33 am


Awesome show Marc. I have listen to your show for a couple years now and this show has motivated me to come to your site like no others. I think that Tod should great courage to come on and out himself. I am sure it will help alot of kids to find a way to be honest with themselves and see that it can get better. I am one of the admins on a support site on FaceBook called “I love my gay brother, sister, uncle, aunt, parent, friend, anyone”  located at https://www.facebook.com/groups/61465178227/ I have shared a link to this interview and hope it will help just those kids Tod was speaking about. Marc you were awesome as always.. take care.

Mako January 23, 2012 at 3:44 pm


So proud of you Todd Glass, and Marc I love that you have a show where people feel this comfortable in sharing something this big.

To all you people who are like “what’s the big deal?”  It is a big deal to those who have carried it as a secret for so long.  Wake up and try to imagine what they are going through.  If you can’t, then just keep it to yourself.

Steven January 24, 2012 at 12:23 pm


There is no such thing as too many role models, and honesty is a must in any of them. Very proud of you Todd, and very happy that Marc is such a good friend that you trusted him to help you deliver the story. Kudos to both of you. I already loved the work and respected both comics, and this is just another reason why. Hey, Todd, doesn’t the sunlight rock?

Andrea January 29, 2012 at 6:27 pm


This podcast really choked me up a couple times. I thought Todd’s honesty and articulate explanations of what kept him from living openly were so revealing. I am a straight married Christian woman with children. Todd’s words will inform my actions and vocabulary around this from here on out. There is no reason to use gay as an adjective. There are plenty of reasons to speak out forcefully in the face of unkindness and bigotry. Thank you and God bless you, Todd.

Jason January 30, 2012 at 7:13 pm


Todd, always loved your work, always will.

Marc, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

Butt Swank January 31, 2012 at 12:08 am


I don’t know why more people aren’t talking about the fact that Glass outed himself, and Daniel Tosh too. That’s not a joke right?

c@meron February 01, 2012 at 2:57 am


good for you Todd…now I wish I woulda stayed after to get some pics after the Doug Loves Movies in Vegas…been one of my comic crushes for a long while!

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