Mister Fonzie June 28, 2010 at 7:22 am

Careful with that WTF Blend coffee while you’re wearing the wet pants, Marc. POW!

Brendan June 28, 2010 at 2:11 pm

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gurthang June 28, 2010 at 3:02 pm

Dane sounds a little full of shit on lots of points.  It seems like he hasn’t taken enough time to think about the issues and questions Marc wanted to get to and so waffled a bit on his responses.  Maybe he isn’t quite at that point in his life where he wants to or recognizes a need to evaluate his shit.  Also, Marc did get a little obnoxious.

Also,  1 : appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect
2 : marked by or being an attack on an opponent’s character rather than by an answer to the contentions made

joe June 28, 2010 at 3:32 pm

I used to say Dane Cook was to comedy what Nickleback is to music.

Maybe I still will.

Great podcast, Marc, but seriously, buy a nice pair of slacks and stop all this craziness.

Dan June 28, 2010 at 4:58 pm

While I found some aspects of the way Dane was acting/reacting during this conversation to be irritating (and as somebody mentioned above, Marc was being a bit antagonistic), I still came away from this episode feeling more respect and understanding for him as a person and a performer than I’ve ever had before. While I’ve never exactly been on the “Fuck Dane Cook” bandwagon, I was never particularly a fan of his and I was willing to believe a lot of the things I’d heard people say about him. This was an intense show. Nice work.

Beherit June 28, 2010 at 5:11 pm

Dane Cook? ugh… Needless to say, I only listened to it because its Marc’s podcast

At any rate, keep up the good work Marc :D

Jason June 28, 2010 at 5:12 pm

So I’m listening to the nicotine madness right now, and wondering when this was recorded.  Are the intros recorded the day you post the rest of the show?

Jason June 28, 2010 at 5:16 pm

OK, never mind my last comment that hasn’t been approved yet.  The reference to the Celtics answered my question.

sev June 28, 2010 at 5:19 pm

Marc - I can appreciate your honesty with Dane Cook but I did sense some jealousy from you in the interview.

As an over-achiever myself, I can empathize with Dane’s frustration over his ambition, success, confidence, and opinions being misinterpreted as asshole egocentric narcissism.

lee June 28, 2010 at 5:29 pm

An empty vessel full of fuel and an ominous demon.  Awesome

Jason June 28, 2010 at 5:55 pm

Wow, Marc said something so smart in this episode.  That line about Dane’s fans being fans of his excitement for what he’s talking about as opposed to what he’s talking about actually being funny all the time.  That’s exactly what it is!  Oh and why is Dane afraid to say Stanhope’s name?  Or was that supposed to be out of respect or some shit?  I thought it was shitty of him to say “I’m not gonna say the comic’s name but he’s someone who’s vocal about not liking me” or whatever.

Zounds June 28, 2010 at 5:55 pm

I don’t dislike Dane Cook as I’ve never met him and from what little I know of him he seems like a decent person. What I dislike is his brand of comedy because it just isn’t funny; it’s corporate comedy. It’s the Menudo of comedy. It’s dumbed down to the lowest level so it sells and so it pushes out of the limelight better comedy.

I liked Dane Cook when I first heard of him. He seemed a bit raw and full of energy. It seemed that the more his career went up the less effort he put into his material.

milly June 28, 2010 at 6:31 pm

great interview but you seemed way harsher on Dane cook then you did on Mencia .was that the nicotine withdrawl ? cause you seemed to enjoy “needling ” Dane way more then was necessary . Did you know something you weren’t saying cause it seemed that way .

Terry1 June 28, 2010 at 6:54 pm

Dane doesn’t seem pathological like Mencia, but I don’t see how it’s possible those three jokes didn’t come from Louis CK.  If he’s not stealing, it just doesn’t make sense that all of his pilfered jokes come from one source. 

The thing about Cook is, someone else SHOULD be writing his material.  Only the worst hater could deny the guy’s got presence and charisma.  The problem is he’s got no decent jokes.  And he never will; he’s just not a very thoughtful or intospective dude.

kjgear June 28, 2010 at 6:57 pm

“...Dane’s fans being fans of his excitement for what he’s talking about as opposed to what he’s talking about actually being funny…”

I’ve never been interested in Dane Cook and definitely not in the “controversy” surrounding him. But the above quote sums up Dane’s stage act pretty well. And I think that is a damn good reason to dismiss his act. No?
I did see Dane in some movie revolving around a family vacation of some sort and thought Mr. Cook did a really good job in his role.
So Dane in a movie: sure, I’d watch it.
Dane on stage: not in this lifetime.

Swede June 28, 2010 at 7:08 pm

Snus is great. Hooked on Göteborgs Rapé (White Portion). Delicious.

Zaq June 28, 2010 at 7:22 pm

Wow… Pushing your joke cocks into our brain pussies and shoot a load of funny in.  That’s hot.

Rich June 28, 2010 at 8:45 pm

Yea, the joke cock thing was cute but kinda derivative of Dane’s Tourgasm, no?

Felipe June 28, 2010 at 10:59 pm

Haha, very nice use of the Requiem for a Dream soundtrack on the Nicotine Diaries… great episode.

Mike June 28, 2010 at 11:35 pm

I was guilty of contempt prior to investigation with DCook. I think I will seek out his comedy after hearing him. Sounds way more honest than Mencia. And likable. If that was his goal, he succeeded, at least with me.

Michael June 28, 2010 at 11:47 pm

This episode was supercharged by a strange and lurking undercurrent, and I loved it.  I’m a little surprised that it didn’t end with a sloppy sex embrace or some kind of violent choking, but maybe there will be a follow-up.

I haven’t followed Dane Cook much beyond seeing some of his stand-up on TV, but I think I may have dismissed him based on the reputation—and I know that’s unfair.  I really enjoyed hearing his take, and I think he’s a good guy and I wish him the best.  He may be on the verge of eruption, though, and I’m not sure he realizes it. I’d like nothing more than for Marc to be there to catch what spatters.  Just think how well those pants would fit when sodden with whatever’s powering a Dane Cook.

WTF is getting better all the time.  This show is really something to be proud of, Marc.  Good luck crushing nicotine.  You can do it.

Cat Admirer June 29, 2010 at 1:30 am

The interminable uncomfortableness over Dane’s “essence” can hopefully be attributed to Marc being in the nicotine vortex. And then, in the midst of this odd outburst of playground taunting, to come out with “drive shaft” without a hint of self-deprecation! Had Marc said this in the same context in front of a comedian (rather than a defendant), we might have seen it thrown back at him in a hilarious or humbling way.

We missed the jerky Marc here who cops to his own massive sense of entitlement and jealousy after—or instead of—behaving in such a manner.

Anyway, good luck with the withdrawal.

P.S. Don’t know what the product itself is like, but it will at least be nice, as listeners, to no longer hear the word “Snus.”

Solomon Raabe June 29, 2010 at 2:22 am

I don’t feel the need to come to the aid of any certain comedian who is able to make a decent living by talking on a stage, and just to soften what I’m about to say, I respect Louie C.K. more than most comedians.
I saw Louie C.K. do a bit about the 40 P’s of success, while talking about giving young comedians advice (during a recent appearance he did on “Late Night with Conan O’Brian”) and I remembered it and still think it’s funny…..but I was watching a “Mr.Show” playlist on You Tube and I saw David Cross doing basically the same joke back in the 90’s…..There is no question in my mind that Louie didn’t steal the joke intentionally or unintentionally, but I just wanted to give an example using the alleged victim of Dane Cook.
Just for the record, I don’t care for Dane or his brand of comedy, I do respect his sense of standards though, especially the choice not to be like almost everybody else in the country who uses drugs for no reason….And it seems that that is actually a defining quality, since it appears that most comedians at some point have used drugs. As a person with a disability, I’m especially sensitive to hearing stories that come from the use of drugs (for no reason)
In Colorado we have lazy hippies who are physically able to work, but instead of bathing and getting a job they decide to wait at one of the marijuana dispensaries for somebody they will be able to rob easily, then follow them home & take the medicine from them, that helps them to deal with whatever has become such a disibility that even a doctor (who in most cases, is gladly in the pocket of the highest paying pharmaceutical Co.) even a doctor is willing to Say “well your liver and kidney function has been almost completely taken, looks like we’re down to the one thing that might actually help”.
Marijuana is not addictive (physically), but I think that being lazy is a lifestyle choice and it seems that a lot of lazy people who want to slow their neuron activity (for no reason) maybe to be a lazy thief, you find that people like you find yourself sharing space with people who use drugs more often than not, or maybe it helps you not look or address the kind of person you’re becoming.
I don’t know, I only included this rant because I’ve met, known, and am related to, people like this, so I know what I’m saying when I say that unless Dane is just a horrible person who chooses to steal, without need, even though he has full use of his faculties….well, I probably don’t need to explain again, how I feel about someone who would choose to exist as scum, even though there might be other options available to them.
I do think Carlos is another story though, but that’s just my opinion, and has nothing to do with any concrete proof.

LATaurus June 29, 2010 at 3:20 am

I’m not ashamed to admit that I find Dane Cook funny.  Even if I didn’t, I admire his initiative in making this interview happen.  He did seem to take himself a little too seriously at times.  Marc was just having fun with the “essence” thing, and I was surprised that Dane didn’t pick up on that. 

Lighten up a little, Dane….  learn to laugh at yourself.

LATaurus June 29, 2010 at 3:22 am

Sorry, forgot to say that the decision to use music and the actual choice of music during the Nicotine Diaries segment was fantastic. 

richard June 29, 2010 at 10:05 am

i don’t have the best memory, but i could have sworn Mencia said something very like “sometimes i wish i DID steal material, so that…etc. etc.”  Cook said the same thing.  It sounds like a subconscious admission of guilt, to me.  And I don’t want to speculate & assume whether it was calculated, evil theft, or the kind of absorption theft that’s been mentioned on wtf a few times.  But either way, I think they both know that simple coincidence wasn’t a factor.

Rank June 29, 2010 at 11:08 am

I have to give it to Cook for bringing the camera.  The only smart thing Michael Jackson did near the end of his life was bringing his own camera crew to the Martin Bashir interview.  Not comparing Marc to Bashir, but a person should keep their own copy of an uncut interview.

Cook was right about the “Comedy Central Presents” being rerun too much. 

Marc, please have John Mulaney on.  Lorne Michaels needs to fire Fallon and give him Late Night.

jake June 29, 2010 at 12:03 pm

Is it just me or does Maron seem really snotty toward more successful comics he doesn’t worship?  And his suck up to Ben Stiller, one of the d baggiest of all people, was strange.

sean bedlam June 29, 2010 at 12:40 pm

I’ve been listening to hour after hour of this podcast and it’s never boring or predictable. It has the easy flow of conversation and it’s about something I care deeply for: comedy. That said, Dane’s bit about- roughly- little people having no idea what the pressure is like at the top? Fuck that in every orifice. You no like the big stardom, don’t work tirelessly for that same stardom. 

Tramel June 29, 2010 at 2:29 pm

I don’t know if you were trying to compensate for going soft on Mencia the first time, but you surely overcompensated by going after Dane Cook. It seemed like you kept trying to goat him into admitting he was an asshole. I thought he explained pretty well why he wouldn’t hang back in the day, but you kept pushing. Unless you have some evidence, or you’ve heard it from other people that the guy can be an asshole I don’t see why you had to keep pushing him to validate your preconception. By the way, if you Do know people that say he’s an asshole in person, you should have them on the show, just like you did in Mencia Part 2.

Also, you didn’t really get into the joke stealing thing much. Dane mentioned a couple of things from the Louis CK controversy, but we never got to hear what they said to eachother when they talked; and we never heard what Rogan had to do with any of it.

American Pundit Fighting June 29, 2010 at 2:58 pm

Marc Maron - The Charlie Rose of comedy. I can’t wait to hear Maron do a post mortem of this Cook interview, talk about the feedback from listeners and also his own appraisal of the conversation a few days removed.

Robert June 29, 2010 at 3:17 pm

this is the first time that I thought that you behaved like an asshole, Marc. Sorry! Still a great show.

Aaron The Truck Driver June 29, 2010 at 3:29 pm

I respect a guy trying to set things straight but this was a awkward interview mostly. Like listening to Robert Plant and Jimmy Page argue about what is the best Air Supply song. I think Dane is funny, I know one air supply song. I didn’t know Dane had so many things to set straight.. Mr Cook wouldn’t even throw a jab back after you tried joking with him. I don’t mean to kick a guy when he is down but Dane was kind of wallowing. Dane should of stood up and farted in your general direction after the ”steal your essence” line, and taken command of the conversation, with wit and power and his Essence!

Steve B. June 29, 2010 at 7:18 pm

Not a big fan of Dane’s comedy, but he seems like a nice enough guy. I believe him when he says he’s never consciously stolen material because I think his ego is way too big to ever allow him to sink to that (And I don’t even mean that as a put down). I think Marc is right about the control freak thing, and like I said I think there’s definitely an ego there, but I also think he carries it pretty well, all things considered.

Craig M. June 29, 2010 at 9:05 pm

Marc you seemed kind of like a jerk in this interview. It started out great, but then went uncomfortable and akward.
Still a big fan, and I wish you the best of luck dealing with the lack of nicotine…it’s tough.

nev June 30, 2010 at 1:33 am

Mencia - has never drank or done drugs.
Cook - has never drank or done drugs.
Coincidence? Me think not.

Pat June 30, 2010 at 6:14 am

Mencia - an american comedian who worked for comedy central
Cook - an american comedian who worked for comedy central
Coincidence?  I think not.

Joe Tily June 30, 2010 at 6:30 am

Great episode Maron, i was looking forward to it after reading all the comments and it didn’t disappoint. I only know Dane Cook for his roll as ‘The Waffler’ in the flick Mystery Men but he seemed an ok kinda guy in the interview even when you were baiting him.

One thing i have to say though - Marc, if you are that messed-up after quitting Nicotine you must have been an unbearable fucker when you quit cocaine and booze.  Part of me is enjoying hearing you whine and part of me is thinking what a big pussy! Mind you, i haven’t given up anything yet myself so maybe its me who’s the big pussy!

Either way, WTF is my favourite podcast dude. Keep it up.

some guy June 30, 2010 at 1:44 pm

For a comedian, Dane Cook seems awful humorless. His inability to get Marc having fun with the ‘essence’ thing especially.

J June 30, 2010 at 3:43 pm

yeah, gotta say mark…a little dickish on this one.
though i always thought that it would be fun to hear cook picked on i found that i was wrong.
love the show though, especially these john stossel type exposes on shitty comedians. keep it up bearded one.

Germ June 30, 2010 at 4:41 pm

I was surprised when Dane made the quick witted comment about being “knocked into West Side Story” during football tryouts. Well a quick Google search later and surprise surprise he made the same joke 3 years ago in a sports illustrated article. Not only is not witty, he recycles his own stale material.

jenn June 30, 2010 at 5:12 pm

Hey Marc, I’ve fallen a bit behind on the pods. Just caught this one. Love the nicotine bits. Take it easy with that stuff (or lack thereof). I don’t know much about that Dane Cook guy. Not into his comedy. He seems alright, though. Just as messed up as the rest of us.

Be well, from a little WTFerina.

Belle June 30, 2010 at 7:55 pm

Marc,

Rape jokes are never funny.

John June 30, 2010 at 8:36 pm

While I do find Dane Cook funny at times I do find him overrated considering is watered down comedy.  When watching his specials it’s not uncommon for members of his audience to start laughing before he even tells a joke.  I have nothing against the guy I just think he gets too much credit compared to other comedians (Marc being an example).

Overall I was disappointed with the interview.  I usually get laughs out of the podcats…not this one.  I didn’t really understand Marc’s angle.  It seemed like he didn’t really like Dane and was actually quite a jerk much of the time for no good reason.

If anything, my respect for Dane Cook has increased slightly after the interview and decreased a bit for Marc.  Don’t get me wrong, I will keep listening…I just don’t understand why he was such a prick to Cook and far too gentle on Mencia

Germ June 30, 2010 at 9:11 pm

Nev, your point is well taken, people with focus and drive rather than the tortured souls of the intelligent and creative-> Marc is the prototypical example.

Neil W. Ahrens July 01, 2010 at 1:04 am

Started listening last year when I got an iphone and listened to the land of podcasts from itunes. Nice work Maron, really.

This is not snark, but you may be hitting your stride in these interviews , Larry King just bailed on his show yesterday…I think you would be perfect!

Steve C July 01, 2010 at 1:44 am

I thought Maron handled himself extremely well and was more focused than he was in Mencia Pt 1 and I agree with Tramel’s comment that he compensated with Cook: he didn’t want to have to call him back and re-address anything.  He tried to push Cook to be up-front about his ambition, to admit to being a ‘control-freak’-given that he talked of growing up in chaos, it’s a perfectly reasonable line of questioning.  It’s basic psychology.  And Cook was not completely forthcoming about it, didn’t have a sense of humour about himself, had excuses for his aloofness and defensiveness during the “Catch” days in Boston with Cross and the gang and then NYC, and the most telling thing I think is, he asked Maron to be on the show.  Why?  To control what the comedy community opinion of him. He so desperately wants to be liked. “Hey Marc, you gave me a bag of coffee, here, have 6 bags.” “I see a buddy movie, you and me” Gahd does he pander. I give it to Maron for not taking the bait. 

And yes, someone else here posted that like Mencia, “he wished he really stole those bits so he could have a cleansing of confessing to it”.  Bull Fucking Shit you wish that Cook. Your act is physical and energetic (like other thieves Robin Williams and Carlos Mencia) but there’s very little content. Why not supplement what little there is with other people’s material, just change it up a little using my cadence.

I do feel bad that Cook lost both parents within a year, that is terrible.  But, a little nagging feeling in me believes that maybe he uses that emotional appeal as another way to gain sympathy, to be likeable? It’s an ugly thought, I know, but it just recalls Mencia’s blatant appeal to sympathy about his ethnically varied upbringing and how it fucked with his identity.  May very well be true but when you hold it up as a shield to deflect questions about loose professional ethics, well, you lost your credibility.

I’m rambling too, another great show Maron. I too have finally given up the nic gum.  It’ll be fine.

Lee July 01, 2010 at 8:44 am

This was a great episode. I echo the sentiments that Dane seems like a genuinely nice guy. I mean, if the guy is faking his niceness, then he is on a pathological skill level 10X that of Mencia. In my experience, you can sniff a persons “true essence” (har har) out. Its difficult to fake in a long interview, especially the type of interview Marc does.

I don’t find Dane funny but thats ok. I believe him when he says he did not steal. Maybe I’m wrong. There is not near the evidence for his supposed thievery as there is for Mencia.

As far as Marc’s behavior, sure he was pretty sardonic with regards to the “steal my essence” comment, but shit, how could you not be? “He stole my essence”? Maron is from a class prior to Dane’s. He is the perpetual cool senior of alt. comedy and Cook is the upstart freshman no matter how much money and fame Cook achieves. That’s all there was to Marc’s behavior. And it seems from the interview Cook accepted those roles. Not a big deal to me.

Great episode. Ever think about weaning yourself off the nicotine instead of going cold turkey, Marc? Just a sane, rational thought. Thats all.

Tad July 01, 2010 at 11:45 am

Can anyone tell me what song that is playing for the Nicotine Diaries?

zef July 01, 2010 at 3:39 pm

“Lux Aeterna” By Clint Mansell

Aaron The Truck Driver July 01, 2010 at 4:21 pm

Holy Shit. Its a Marc v.s. Dane thermonuclear war!

Comics are supposed to have sharp tongues and stinging wit. While there is alot of philosophy talk behind the scenes, and self loathing (for comics). This wasnt a god damn theropy session. Could you imagine Howard Stern trying to make friends with everyone who doesn’t like him? Or Russell Brand or Chris Rock.

Cook was so WEAK! Im not a comedian expert. If i laugh i laugh. Dane is funny. But hearing him wallow around while trying to make nice with the world on this podcast, was sad. I was like hearing Ronnie James Dio trying to make friends with all the religious types.

Dane seemed to treat this interview as if he was on The View. Love both Dane and Marc but Dane was a turd. A smelly turd wanting people to like the smell. No thanks! Wrong time wrong place.

Beelzebud July 02, 2010 at 3:31 am

I don’t appreciate Cook’s brand of comedy, but I thought this interview was great, and I think I understand where he’s coming from now. 

This interview didn’t convert me into liking his stand up comedy, but I can’t deny that I’d definitely watch a buddy movie with Maron/Cook.

dangeraardvark July 02, 2010 at 4:02 am

I love this shit soooooo much.  I can’t believe you actually got Dane Cook and Mencia twice, to sit down and talk that candidly.  And it got soooooo uncomfortable.  I love it.

Dan July 02, 2010 at 6:30 pm

“Mencia - has never drank or done drugs.
Cook - has never drank or done drugs.
Coincidence? Me think not.”

I’ve noticed a common trend with a lot of comics who seem resentful of other comics who don’t have a hard-living drug history. It’s as if not living the cliched Behind The Music lifestyle somehow makes you less genuine. This has always seemed like a really juvenile attitude to me. Dane grew up with an alcoholic father, so is he that crazy for choosing to be sober?

I love Bill Hicks, but I get really annoyed sometimes when I hear people parrot his drug schtick.

Ian July 06, 2010 at 2:40 am

OH MY GOD Marc, I am RIGHT there with you on the nicotine withdrawals, down to the wanting to shave my head, I thought I was crazy. Still debatable. I’m directing my nonsmoker friends who don’t get it to this episode.

denz July 07, 2010 at 10:30 am

I’m looking forward to a 2nd interview in the future. Because that’ll be the first time we have a reference point when you start that interview off with “You know, I have to apologise. I seem to recall that the last time I met you I was an asshole’.

Marc July 10, 2010 at 6:39 pm

Yeah, I was expecting Marc to do his usual apology for being an asshole in the past.  I think Dane would have reciprocated.  Well, this was a good start.  I also thoroughly enjoyed the interview.  Keep up the good work!  (And definitely take Dane up on his offer to come back. The intensity of both egos made for a great podcast, and plenty was left unsaid) =)

anon July 23, 2010 at 2:45 am

I dont really know Marc Maron, this is my first time on this site because Doug Stanhope tweeted that this was worth a listen. I gotta agree with the people saying Marc came off like an asshole a lot of the time. The comments also seem to imply that this isn’t typical of him, but damn. And I really can’t stand Dane Cook’s comedy but he seems like an alright guy and came off well in this interview. And I have to admit, his movie with Jessica Simpson in the grocery store or whatever (I forget what it’s called), guilty pleasure movie for sure, if you haven’t seen it check it out. Funny stuff.

Doug Stanhope August 03, 2010 at 10:33 pm

“I really liiike Daeeeenee Coook…I mean Barrack Obama…No, as a person.”

Nick October 23, 2010 at 10:48 pm

This is the first time listening to Marc Maron’s podcast, so I can’t say I am familiar with his schtick or type of humour.  But listening to this as a total outsider, Maron just seemed to be a total prick trying to twist and manipulate things to make Cook sound bad, and making snarky sarcastic remarks at his expense, and Cook took it all in stride. 

For instance, the part about Cook’s act with the anonymous@yahoo.com.  Maron made Cook sound like a complete vengeful douche for his response to the fan’s apology.  Cook saw the angle Maron was trying to work from a mile away, and explained himself that his response in the act was simply for the punchline.  But Maron didn’t give a shit, he just wanted to hear, verbatim, what he said in the act, which was not the complete story.

I never followed Dane Cook either, until I heard him on Joe Rogan’s podcast, among others.  I saw his latest special Isolated Incident, and I thought it was great.  I then went chronologically back in reverse at his past specials, and can definitely understand the perspective of the critics of his early work. 

His Comedy Central special was terrible in comparison to Isolated Incident.  If that was my first exposure to Dane Cook I am sure I would be hating him too.  But the fact of he matter is, is that he has definitely honed his craft and his previous work is no indication whatsoever of his current work.

Maron just seems too proud to change his perspective of Cook after he tongue-lashing he gave with Garofalo.

Karen October 29, 2010 at 8:10 pm

I totally hated Dane Cook before hearing this podcast. Granted, I’ve only seen or heard commercials of his comedy, but I was always turned off. So when I heard he was stealing jokes from my favorite comedian, I did join the “Fuck Dane Cook” bandwagon. However, after listening to this podcast, I actually like the guy. If he really did steal those jokes, that’s not ok. But I’m not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Everybody is both good and bad.

My favorite part was that really intense part where he was saying that both of his parents died of cancer within the same year, so he doesn’t care what other people think. It really put it into perspective and I think he was directing that energy at Marc.

Oh and sorry Marc, I’m a big fan of you and everything, but I think you came across as really immature. It’s fine to grill people and not just suck their cocks because they’re a guest on your show. In fact, I respect people more when they don’t do that. But after someone explains themself, whether you believe it or not, you let it go and move on. That’s the adult thing to do. But you kept beating a dead horse and sounded like a bitter, jealous ex-girlfriend. Then when you started backpeddling, it just made you look petty and foolish. So seriously grow up. You’re making me defend Dane Cook for christsake.

royalsubaltern June 01, 2011 at 11:47 pm

Hi Marc,

I generally enjoy your podcasts, but I absolutely agree with Karen. You really came across as a huge douchebag on this episode. I don’t even like Dane as a comedian, but he definitely appeared to be a way way way more mature and sussed cat than you. I don’t buy the ‘good radio’ crap, it was just some bitter crap. I hope you do a better job with him next time.

dave sootay July 19, 2011 at 2:17 pm

I wonder if Dane will be able to reinvent himself. If not, his career as a standup will be completely dead in a few more years. It’s been spiraling downward for a while now.

His “new media” campaign was obviously effective, but shallow. Sooner or later, most people figured out that his stuff was just unfunny material getting blasted out of a cannon.

Jeremy Staffordshire July 29, 2011 at 3:08 pm

I like Marc Maron’s podcast.  It’s informative, entertaining, and interesting.  On occasion, however, I find that Marc projects a little much of his own insecurities into the interviews.  This seems to happen most when he is dealing with comics who have attained a substantially higher level of success.  When this happens, Marc comes across like the local musical act that can’t stop slamming the major pop acts that have enjoyed success.  I do think Marc unnecessarily needled Dane throughout the interview.  He clearly wants to portray Dane as “form over substance” and as a “motherfucker.”  But he does it in a passive aggressive manner throughout the interview (e.g., “Do you have any friends, Dane?” “I don’t think you steal pathologically,” etc.).  Marc made this interview more about his own insecurities than about Dane, who clearly has an interesting story to tell, especially with respect to his bizarre and sad upbringing.  Marc wants to portray Dane as this ruthless, aggressive, ambitious “motherfucker” because Marc wants to attribute Dane’s success to something other than talent because at Marc’s core he is a competitor and insecure.  If he can attribute Dane’s success to ambition and aggressiveness, then he can more easily portray Dane as a sell out.  This would justify Dane’s successes in Marc’s mind and allow Marc’s ego to relax (i.e., if Dane achieved success by selling out, then the fact that Marc hasn’t achieved the same level of success does not reflect on Marc’s talents or perceived lack of talent).  As I said, I generally enjoy Marc’s interviews.

Chris K August 19, 2011 at 7:48 am

Late to this, but it was definitely a weird one. What struck me, in contrast to so many other guests, is that Dane never once got silly or seemed to have a sense of humor about things. How many guests has Marc had on and at some point there’s at least a little riffing and mutual ribbing? Marc was teasing him on the “essence” thing and instead of just laughing at it, he continued to take offense to it. That’s red meat to most comics. Also, getting stuck on the “motherfucker” comment was odd too. I didn’t think Marc was any more or less rude or blunt here as compared with guests he likes. He probably could have backed off a little once that was clear, but that’s not who he is.

The stuff about his parents dying - “you think I give a shit….?” just seemed like protesting too much. I’m sure that was an awful time, but it’s not like he needed an excuse not to give a shit. Clearly, he does give a shit, whatever the circumstance.

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