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Episode 432 - Natasha Lyonne

Natasha Lyonne shares her story with Marc, and what a story it is. In addition to a tremendously accomplished acting career, Natasha emerged from the other side of a harrowing experience with addiction. She tells Marc how she was able to make it out alive and where her life has gone from there. This episode is sponsored by Click on the radio mic and enter WTF to start a no-risk trial with a $110 bonus offer.


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Michael P. Gowdy October 14, 2013 at 4:18 am

Damn it. Toby Huss entered the garage at the end of the last episode, so I was hoping that his interview was going to play sometime this week.


Scott October 14, 2013 at 7:57 am

Sorry to hear about you and Jess.

This relationship was important to you.  Maybe you’ll get back together, stranger things have happened.

Logan Sorese October 14, 2013 at 8:40 am

Sending good vibes to ya, man.  Stay posi.

Bumper October 14, 2013 at 9:38 am

I’m sorry to hear your sad news man. Be strong. It’s hard to make those sorts of decisions. My heart goes out to you.

Christopher October 14, 2013 at 3:47 pm

Hang in there man. That quiet “POW, I just shit my pants” gives me hope for you.

bleedingears October 14, 2013 at 8:58 pm

A blind man could have seen this coming.

As the kids say, “just sayin’”.

Pete_CT October 15, 2013 at 2:59 am

Well shit, Marc… I’ve got no relationship advice to offer anybody… all I could send your way is my sincere thanks and admiration as a listener for how you’ve shared so much of your life with us! ...Hope you and Jessica soon fine the peace of mind needed to move on.

Speaking of sharing… Loved Natasha Lyonne talk!

ThatMBAFromDetroit October 15, 2013 at 3:42 am


With all the analyses you’re undoubtedly undergoing, please don’t try to push a round peg into a square hole.  You’ve been an iconoclast up to this point…why try to change now?  Not everyone has to be ‘married with kids’ to be happy in this life.  After gaining critical acclaim (and real comedy fan adoration) in comedy you saw other, less talented comics, go on to fame and fortune but came to understand that sitcom-stardom was not your road.  You did the druggie, screw-anything-that-walks thing and have watched countless people crash and burnout and die but you’re still here.  And now, when you’re reaping the rewards of achievement on your own terms, by forging through virtually uncharted territory with the podcast, you turn all “rom-com white girly:  the pinnacle of my life is getting married and having a BAYYYYBEEEE”?! 
Your relationship happiness is not going to fit the mold so for the next chick, if she looks typical, acts typical, talks typical, dump her! As a matter-of-fact, why don’t you truly change the paradigm:  ditch the cats and find yourself a Midwestern Black chick, educated, no kids and read and travel the world with her?!

Simon1961 October 15, 2013 at 3:31 pm

Marc: Sorry to hear the sad news. After hearing the timbre of your voice speaking on the show via my iPod™ a hundred+ times I could sense just how sad you are about this, and am sending you a hug from New York. A lot of us out here care about you. Thank you so much for the Natasha Lyonne interview; that was a great one, she’s a fascinating person, so happy she made it through. There were a few years after she did the SLUMS.. film I thought she was a goner. ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK is very good, and she is great in it, if you haven’t already watched the show.

alaba115 October 15, 2013 at 8:42 pm

Marc, hearing your intro today affected me deeply, especially after having watched your recent special “Thinky Pain” on Netflix not just a day ago. It was haunting in retrospect to your bit on dating someone younger and the guy who’s in love who is “doomed”. You painted it as her walking away in the special, and I know all too well what that kind of perpetual abandonment is like, no matter what the pairing is like in the relationship. I don’t claim to know the intimates of what you had, but it sounded important, relevant, and intense. Not to get all bleeding heart here, but maybe it’s like you say and for some people like us it’s just not possible to have something consistent and “stable”, because how the hell do we even process what that’s like in the context of relationships.

I just wanted to let you know that others know your pain well and we’re here for you. You’ve been a constant source of inspiration and companionship for me over the past couple years through your podcast. It pains me to know you’re going through what you’re going through, and I truly wish you the best and hope you find some kind of sanctuary and soon. We love you Marc grin

nymike October 15, 2013 at 10:27 pm

when uze gonna learn that smartz n show biz don’t mix!!

killed orson welles

u & nl know sumptin he didnt?


Jason October 16, 2013 at 12:13 am

I love Natasha Lyonne, and had forgotten it.  Thanks for the great interview.  What a dame.

nickster October 16, 2013 at 10:41 pm

As strange as it seems, when I was going thru what you are now, a friend said to me “just another bump in the road” and it seemed to help put it all in perspective.
As far as Lyonne…she’s exhausting. Blah blah blah please understand me…

kai 45 from Berlin Germany October 17, 2013 at 1:59 am

Keep your head up.
Everything will be fine in the long run.
It takes bravery to be true to your self.
You don’t have to settle for anything less.
Just wanted to let you know, that you gave comfort to my soul, when i went through hard times. 
You are effecting people in a positive way all over the world with what you do.
You are a good man.

Miss Lisa October 17, 2013 at 8:16 pm

I love Natasha Lyonne. She is so good on OITNB. Thank you for the interview—she *should* write a book, but since she won’t, I’ll just keep enjoying her acting. She had this bit part on New Girl and it was really demented. She’s funny as hell and I’m glad she’s back from the abyss.

Breakups suck. Sorry.

Kate October 17, 2013 at 9:26 pm

This episode really got to me. I am a 30 year old jewish chick and I grew up watching Natasha Lyonne and feeling like she was someone I could relate to. Slums of Beverly Hills was my anti hero media obsession as a teenager. I’m really glad to hear that she has come out the other side of her ordeal and seems to have gained a lot of perspective. Orange is the New Black is my favorite show of the year. I’m excited to see more of her. Maybe a badass-Israeli-comado-lady-buddy-comedy? Just an idea.

just a guy October 20, 2013 at 12:05 pm

I wasn’t going to listen to this episode as I didn’t think I would be too interested for me, but I’m so glad I did.

it’s very rare for me to run into someone else who sort of, kind of survived the same upper east side orthodox yeshiva grade school as I, and certainly never to find someone else who was expelled (though for me it was just for impertinence and arguing with the rabbis not selling weed), even though we are a quarter-century apart in age. plus, her mother sounds like almost as much of a monster as mine was. her insights as to the radical effects that studying the talmud have upon a young mind are entirely in line with mine.

two years ago at a film festival I saw a guy who looked familiar and when I spotted his name tag, I realized he was a guy also from there and we were in the same grade. I went up to him and introduced myself and said, “we went to the same grade school.” I’ve never seen anyone so suddenly flooded with fear and horror so quickly and then just as quickly he managed to hide it again. he stared at me for a beat like that, then relaxed a bit. he took my hand and said, “yes. I remember you. you weren’t one of the mean ones. you were nice to me.” this from a man in his mid 50’s. that’s how f@cked up that place could be.

onwards and upwards, marc.

Joe Tily October 22, 2013 at 6:53 am

Sorry to hear about your break-up Marc . . . its never easy.  Relationships are fucking hard.  Thanks for another great interview.

James Christopher October 23, 2013 at 10:54 am

I’m going through the exact same thing Marc.  I heard this intro, the morning after me and my long time gf broke up in a similar way for similar types of reasons.  Totally hit me hard.  We’ll be ok in time.  This isn’t the first hard time I’ve gotten through listening to your podcasts.  Forge ahead brother-man!

Rachael October 23, 2013 at 12:21 pm

I’m so sorry Marc. I want nothing but the best for you. It may not come easily at times, but it will come. You have touched many people in different ways with your open vulnerability & honesty which endears us to you. The collective cares about you & wants to offer support in any way. Thank you!

Chuck October 23, 2013 at 7:06 pm

Sorry to hear you and Jess are no longer an item. The heart will heal with time. Don’t compare this union to your past broken marriages. You showed up and gave it your all - vulnerability, warts, effort, love. Good for you!

You have evolved and reached a new juncture in life. The signs of success are evident all around you, dude. Take notice. A budding acting career, television program, WTF podcast, growing diverse fan base…all counts for something!  It might be a good time to nurture your disparate career.

Don’t focus on the break up, focus on what you learned from it. Hats off to you for not allowing the challenges of bachelordom dissuade you from ending an unhealthy relationship. Perhaps this will prime you for the woman you’re suppose to spend the remainder of your life with. The woman desperately waiting for the mature and seasoned Marc Maron to arrive. The guy who comes from a weak family structure, accepts his imperfections/unfulfilled desires, and can wholeheartedly make an effort to build a meaningful life with her.

Your fans are behind you. You make us folks wading our way through the banality and disappointments of life feel normal and less alone in the world. Don’t deny the pain, but don’t wallow in it either. You have so much to offer and need to accept you are enough. Thanks.

Chill October 23, 2013 at 7:22 pm

Freud said all there is to life is love and work.  You spoke the truth in your comedy special.  You don’t want to be an old dad picking his kid up from school;.  And your picturing a normal L.A. private school.  It may be a school for kids with disabilities-mental or physical.  Primarily you spoke the truth just hear it.  Really hear it.  Life is about love and work.  A meaningful life.  a fulfilling life.  You are making a difference now to so many.  This is your baby.  Love will find you again.  Stick with an intriguing woman, who adore physical fitness, is smart and witty and most importantly ... can tell you when and where she was when Kennedy was shot.  If they were you too young to remember—or maybe yet not even born—move on.  You can marry a much woman being a successful man however the fountain of youth doesn’t exist.  Us ethe Kennedy question as your barometer so to speak.  You speak the truth.  -Chill

mike October 25, 2013 at 4:23 am

Loved this. I had contempt for her as just another spoiled, dissolute celebrity until I heard this interview. I love the image of her as the smoking professor.

Repentant Patrick October 28, 2013 at 4:55 am

What a coincidence, I had contempt for Mike before I read this comment above.
Contempt is such an easy commodity in this modern world of ours.
So much easier to view others through the many layers and kaleidoscope distortions of our own projection than to face a thing head-on.

Unrepentant Patrick October 28, 2013 at 5:04 am

I forgot to say I’ve had a very long liking of Natasha Lyonne since I was six years old watching my first Teevee crush, Opal.
So naturally this was one of my favorites in awhile. In spite of it coming at such a hard time of rupture in MM’s personal life.
My only regret regarding the interview was how slight the career talk was. Good enough though. Might have been interesting to go into that territory more, for instance what it was like working for the magnificent nutter that is Abel Ferrara.
The role she wanted opposite Albert Brooks referred to was ‘My First Mister’, which Leelee Suchabitchski got…/jk, Leelee’s alright.

Mike Trupiano January 06, 2014 at 9:58 am

Repentant Patrick, many apologies to you for me having revised my opinion of Natasha Lyonne. Many, many apologies. And congrats on never being knee jerk.

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