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Episode 364 - Mike White

Mike White, the creator of Enlightened, talks about his triumphs and anxieties in the course of making movies like School of Rock, The Good Girl and Chuck and Buck. Plus, Marc talks with Jeff Schimmel about the documentary he’s putting together on the life of his brother, the great Robert Schimmel. This episode is sponsored by Go To My PC. Try it free by using the code WTF and access your computer from anywhere at any time.


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CSS February 25, 2013 at 5:51 am

Really great ep. Mike is one of the most interesting and complicated guests ever. I hope people watch Enlightened. It’s a great show. Thanks for posting it early Marc.

P_Lover February 25, 2013 at 2:58 pm

Saying “Good stuff” too much? Fuck that. WTF is this shit re: The Oscars—“I thought it was a sweet, raw movie about broken people with a lot of heart.” A sweet raw movie? C’mon, you’re just messing with us now! $5 in the swear jar for every gratuitous use of the word “raw”—or, for the listeners, 2 shots for anyone playing the Maron drinking game. (Take 3 anytime Marc wants or fails to wrap his brain around something. Etc.) Game on!

lora bander February 25, 2013 at 5:44 pm

Mike White is such a major talent & he is one of a kind—I appreciate the hell out of his unique vision.  His creative voice is so HIM, so unquantifiable, and he is a fascinating interview.  Thanks, Marc, for letting us eavesdrop on this conversation.

grind February 25, 2013 at 6:14 pm

in memoriam:
mike white…


Some Guy February 25, 2013 at 7:30 pm

Is it just me, or did dude seem like he was gonna curl up into himself every five minutes?

Other Chris February 26, 2013 at 12:25 am

Enlightened certainly is something special.

Ben February 26, 2013 at 2:00 am

Mike is an interesting guy. I definitely can relate to being in your own world so often, and how creating work, particularly alone, sometimes seems less personally meaningful then it should somehow. Really good interview.
Enlightened is also great if you can get past occasionally hating the main character.

JR February 26, 2013 at 2:43 am

I loved this episode and found Mike to be personally relateable and kind of adorable.. I’m also turned on to Enlightened now.

Damon Levine February 26, 2013 at 11:29 am

Creative guy.
Bit whiny though.

Guest February 27, 2013 at 7:05 am

That bit about Good Will Hunting was a scream. I hate that movie.

Murray, Dylan February 27, 2013 at 10:41 pm

Enlightened is the best TV show I have ever seen, Mike White has made a show that is insightful, humorous and anything but light and reigned in for mass consumption. Shows like Enlightened are all too rare and anyone who has had reservations towards it or were previously unaware I can not encourage enough people to give it a chance. This is the best role Laura Dern has had since Inland Empire and her David Lynch work in general.

Joe Tily February 28, 2013 at 12:18 pm

Great interview with a true original . . . . thanks Marc!

Roman February 28, 2013 at 5:32 pm

very insightful interview.  There was something about this particular episode that made me reflect multiple times.  While people may find dealing with honestly difficult (including me), I welcome it, as I think it is the only way to truly grow as a 3 dimensional person.

Lets Get Rel podcast March 06, 2013 at 4:47 am

This was great! Big Freaks and Geeks guy, so was already predisposed. I’ve been drawn to Albert Camus musings and veneration of the actor/traveler/writer and I feel like Mike is the ultimate embodiment of that. I mean the guy was on ‘Amazing Race’ twice.
So illuminating, his conversation regarding the longing for connection whilst feeling detached from yourself. So freaking good!

Guest March 10, 2013 at 8:20 am

This pairs up well with the Todd Solondz interview, like wine and cheese.

Janet March 11, 2013 at 5:33 pm

Holy Crow - I had the same experience as a kid with Religion, except it was the New England Catholic version, and took place at a weekend at a Convent.  They sat us in front of a painting of the Holy Trinity and we had to sit there until we felt the Holy Spirit “enter” us.  I was the last one sitting there…for hours.  The nuns were getting pissed.  They kept coming in to check on me to see if I had felt the Holy Spirit yet.  They finally let me out…dripping with disappointment.  And similarly…I was completely surprised (and frightened) when the other kids didn’t seem to get the joke like I did.  Never heard anyone else recount that experience, and it was super cathartic, validating, etc. to hear it here, and with insight and humor.  Thanks.

PS:  Love Enlightened.  Ditto on other comments here…special…deeply GOOD.  Bummer it may be cancelled.  My two cents on why the “viewing numbers” are low…unfortunately the platform is shifting so often, I think that a huge percentage of the people who can appreciate a show like Enlightened are the same people who are getting rid of their cable in droves, and switching to internet viewing.  Unfortunately, TV still hasn’t caught up with keeping stats, or paying attention to the stats on that, and shifting their profit making to internet advertising, and streaming rentals, etc…  We got rid of our cable nearly 5 years ago, back when it was riskier (malware).  We save over 100 bucks a month.  At this point, Hulu, Netflix, and Amazon give us a safe, clean, well-rounded experience that we can define for ourselves.  I spend about 20 bucks a month renting on amazon…some months that represents 4-6 movie rentals….other months it represents buying a season of an exceptional tv series, like Enlightened.

ALWAYS A GREAT PODCAST - Thanks - Best, jnt

Amy Christine April 08, 2013 at 10:14 am

This was a terrific episode. Made me even sadder that Enlightened is being canceled. Agree with previous comments… made me pretty reflective as well.

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