Tobias Aplin September 29, 2011 at 7:56 am

Kind of just went around and around didn’t it?

______ September 29, 2011 at 11:46 am

I could only take 20 minutes of listening to this guy try to cover up his stupidity. Anyone that says things like “oh I LOOOOOOOOOOVE the jews!” is a tool.

Catseye September 29, 2011 at 11:53 am

Never heard of Will Franken before and now I know way too much about him, including the fact that he’s not funny.  Poor Marc, he should’ve been paid for that therapy session.

Santorum September 29, 2011 at 12:02 pm

Catseye - totally.  If you count the number of times Marc says “uh-huh..” in a given interview, you get a good gauge of how bored Marc (and everyone listening) is getting.

He tried to spice it up a little, but man.  This guy just opened the floodgates.

Beelzebud September 29, 2011 at 12:02 pm

LOL I got a kick out of this one.  Maron has to call him out for antisemitism in the first 10 minutes.  It was funny listening to the guy try to recover from that.  After about 30 mins he finally seems to relax in to it.

jimjim September 29, 2011 at 1:28 pm

interesting episode.  “jim morrison at hooters”, haha.

Smith September 29, 2011 at 3:41 pm

Franken does seem like a bit of a mess… or at least he’s letting a lot more of it show than Marc’s previous guests have. Definitely some verbal diarrhea. And boy, what a contrast to Monday’s episode.

Paul V September 29, 2011 at 4:49 pm

That was painful, cringed every time he said ‘genius’ . Delusional and embarrassing, though sometimes engaging, here neither made it worth our attention. A boring car wreck ... I guess its possible.

Julian September 29, 2011 at 8:58 pm

I couldn’t make it through this one…

Yeah the guest wasn’t great, but Maron barely put any effort in.

Huge swing from Monday’s show (which was absolutely fantastic, probably the funniest episode of WTF ever).

Pablo September 30, 2011 at 12:45 am

Holy shit, people are still mean (crawls back to cave).

charles patton September 30, 2011 at 1:48 am

i had never heard of will franken before this, but looked him up after i listened to the episode to get some context, and holy shit, if there’s a complete polar opposite of marc maron in the realm of stand ups it’s this guy, he’s like a one man sketch show.  not my cup of tea every day, but good in small doses.  but he has this weird spiritual journey, and genuinely wants to get into what makes himself tick as a performer and artist and person.  and he succeeds at least on some level, he says he has a breakthrough in this interview when marc offers some analysis, and it ends on an optimistic note.  i really liked this episode.  then i read the comments, and got so confused i listened to it a second time just to be sure i’m not an asshole or something.  turns out i’m not, i was right and the episode is quality.  i don’t know what the hell these other people were listening to.

Steve Ball September 30, 2011 at 11:37 am

Was Marc seriously trying to call him out on being antisemitic?  They were either joking or beating around the bush about the issue….

But in all seriousness, I wouldn’t expect a Jew to be on foodstamps either.

Also, after checking out Franken (Will, not Al), I can see why Marc doesn’t have a lot of respect for this guy.  His act is a series of short skits he does with himself and they’re only point is to feature his impressions, which aren’t even that great.  He could never make it on SNL. (He couldn’t even make it on MadTV) I guess the best thing to have come out of his career was an appearance on this podcast.

Elly September 30, 2011 at 12:19 pm

@Steve Ball – Seemed to me that Maron got his hackles raised a little bit about the stupid statement Franken made about the food stamps, and I’m glad he called him out about it even if it was stated in a joking way.  I don’t think Franken is anti-semitic necessarily, I just think he’s just not educated enough to recognize his generalization of people makes him sound ignorant.  I didn’t find the guy particuarly offensive…I did however find him incredibly dull. 

Also I think the Rabbi was asking him a legitimatly deep question of “Why do you want to become a Jew?”  That’s a fair question.  You don’t get accepted into the faith lightly so why would Franken get so insulted?  Again, just an ignoramus.

Frank September 30, 2011 at 1:27 pm

Lame. Another unfunny dude trying to cash in on the popularity of Maron’s podcast. This “I want to be”, “I wish I could”, amateur clown trying to talk like he has age old wisdom on every subject offered up. He fears boring and yet he is.

Pablo September 30, 2011 at 1:32 pm

Is it really all about the Jews and their sensibilities? I don’t get it. Jews have some of the smartest, brightest, kindest, richest people in the world. They also have some of the biggest assholes that ever lived. Big surprise. Fuck the Jews on one thing, though; their sense of entitlement because they were victimized in WWII. Being a victim doesn’t turn you automatically into virtuous or even respectable people. Look at how they treat Palestinians! Aren’t Palestinians better people then? Victimized by the most victimized people on Earth? Isn’t that the ultimate frontier of victimization?

The bottom line is this: People. Fucking. Suck. We’re primates. Barely out of the jungle. Tribal and xenophobic by nature. I’m really tired of this bullshit. Fuck the Nazis, fuck the Jews, fuck the Arabs, fuck the Persians, the whites, the latinos, the blacks, the Irish and the Italians. Fuck you all glorified monkeys. We suck. Go fuck ourselves!

Toshiro September 30, 2011 at 1:53 pm

I think Pablo needs a hug…but I’m not volunteering.

Marty September 30, 2011 at 2:56 pm

Am I the only one who thinks he’s actually not very good at these voices? He’s not bad, but he acts like he’s some genius “voice” man, his voices sound pretty stereotypical and unoriginal.

Leslie September 30, 2011 at 3:06 pm

Tedious. I listened to the whole thing, but throughout I felt like I was back in college, at a party listening to some junior trying to impress me. What is with this guy?

I love Marc’s interviews, but this one made me uncomfortable and irritated. I do think Marc did a good job of balancing between calling him out on his crap and not being overly rude or disrespectful. Clearly the guy does have problems, and maybe his problems just pushed my buttons. Or maybe it was how he’d admit to a problem but instead of going deep with it he’d pop right back up to the surface again and again. I guess that kind of is the crux of his problem (avoidance disorder, I think he said) ...but this podcast certainly isn’t about coddling people or letting them get away with baloney. This was a tough one.

Crate&Trauma; September 30, 2011 at 6:05 pm

The internets is so tedious

Justin October 01, 2011 at 12:42 am

First: I am glad I did not know what Franken looked like or I’d instantly hate everything he said. I don’t mean actual facial features but the google report of hip girl-hair genius New York artist guy.
In fact, I think the guy will become a superb comic. There is something great about a pretentious or simply self-deluded artist who not only burns-out but becomes a bit cynical and jaded but even past that to ‘true self confidence’. Am I talking about Franken? I think I might be talking about Marc now.

Enjoyed this podcast!

James Myers October 01, 2011 at 4:42 am

Louisville Kentucky. If Marc wants to feel more like Mohamed Ali, I can tell about my mom. Something I didn’t know when I was a kid, even.
In about 1950, my grandfather was managing the Armory in Louisville. He built a house in the nicest neighborhood in town, it burned down the day they moved in.  He rebuilt it, it burned on the move in day again, this time with a note from the KKK to make sure he got the message. My grandad was Jewish.My grandmother had Irish parents, but was orphaned by a collapse in a Kentucky coal mine.
In 6 months, my grandad converted, changed his name, & my grandmother left him.

I never heard any of this stuff until after my grandfather died, & I was being introduced to my mom’s family at a 50th wedding anniversary, (Mom had been he flowergirl)
I’ve always wanted to visit Louisville with Mom,  but her health isn’t going to allow it now.

So there is a little connection to Cassius Clay, in some way.
We’ve been touched by the f’d up parts of the world in similar ways.

The same people who gave Clay shit years before he changed his name, those same people burned my mom’s house down when she was a kid, and got her name changed.
That’s why my middle name is Wayne, the name my grandfather chose, instead of Weinstein.

Justin October 01, 2011 at 5:40 am

James, you also have something else in common - Jews were among the most prolific slave-traders and slave-owners in early America. Clay, it turns out, was half-black. His father being African-American! He also changed his name from Cassius Clay to being named after a famous Arab pedophile pirate named ‘Muhammad’. (though Wayne is a lot more noble than that). Crazy world!

ryan October 01, 2011 at 5:27 pm

A Weird Al episode would be fantastic!

Pedro October 02, 2011 at 8:19 am

Just because the guy noted a jewish stereotype does not make him an antisemite. Marc was out of line for accusing him of being antisemitic, and in the process raised the tension of the podcast so much that I had to turn it off.

Lee Stringer October 03, 2011 at 8:20 pm

I think we finally got to see some of that nasty side Marc is always talking about that he’s capable of.  Jezus… Calling him an antisemite was a bit much. I didn’t sense he was an antisemite at all. That moment of tension took at least half the show to subside. There were a few interesting moments when it did, but as a whole the episode was depressing. And when I say depressing, I don’t mean sad. Sad can be good. I just mean awkward and depressing. Oh well, every episode can’t be good I guess.

Ije October 04, 2011 at 1:43 pm

That was seriously the WORST episode I’d ever listed to.  Franken came off as disingenuous; as if this was yet another persona he was trying on.  I was repulsed by the him.  Will Franken, Get to therapy and stay in therapy.

lynxminx October 04, 2011 at 2:19 pm

Maron clearly went into this interview with prejudice.  Franken comes across as devoid of personality, but I don’t know to what extent my empathy with Maron fed this impression.  Maron called him out in the first five minutes for delivering a tame stereotype he might have delivered himself on a different day, and from that moment on my skin was crawling.  Because I like Maron, not because I didn’t like Franken…and I hate hearing that edge of anger and contempt in his voice.  :(

Mighty Mouse October 05, 2011 at 4:30 pm

I actually really enjoyed this episode. Not every podcast is meant to be “entertaining” per se…sometimes it’s enjoyable, sometimes uncomfortable, sometimes annoying…but to be able to sit in and eavesdrop on a conversation is interesting as hell.

Franken might of had delusions of grandeur…but at least he knows it and accepts it. I found it funny…

The only uncomfortable part of the interview was that it seemed like he was willing to eat any shit Marc was trying to give him in fear of furthering Marc’s past dislike of him. Maron is an exceptional interviewer and I love the fact that he’s not afraid of pushing boundaries no matter how uncomfortable it can be. But Marc needs to seriously stop projecting what he thinks the person is about…and actually learn about the person he’s interviewing.

lynxminx October 05, 2011 at 6:35 pm

Mighty Mouse- I can’t say I “enjoyed” it, but it was interesting.  Most people spend their lives couching themselves in every scrap of identity they can put together…so the possibility they aren’t anyone, or that they don’t or can’t know themselves, seems remote.  I’ve only known a couple of people who were immediately afraid they had no personality…both were likely sociopaths, in the clinical not criminal sense.

T Basco October 14, 2011 at 4:39 am

IHope that the Mexican “goddess” Will Franken was trying to bed didn’t fall for it. Genius Franken soundslike he is always on the make for conquests to talk about. Bummed that before knowing anything else Marc assumed she was lower class- because she was Mexican. Also if you don’t know how to cook buy hot food from whole foods and plate it before your date gets there.

T Basco October 14, 2011 at 4:42 am

Marc was giving Will a hard time about the Jewish stuff but pretty sure that was part of the dreaded banter.

Lee October 30, 2011 at 3:44 am

I feel like Will was put into a soft corner.

dave sootay November 02, 2011 at 1:58 pm

i just checked out Will Franken’s podcast (willfranken.libsyn.com) and it is incredibly good. It is absurdist sketches that are brilliant and bizzarre.  I’m only 3 episodes in, but I am on the verge of saying “funniest thing since Mr. Show.”

Diaz November 13, 2011 at 3:56 pm

@leslie and lje: ditto. I felt the same way.
“Franken came off as disingenuous; as if this was yet another persona he was trying on.” -lje

There’s a part of me that can identify with Franken - struggling with identity, etc. But there was also something about him in this interview that both depressed me and pissed me off. Perhaps it was that he didn’t show any real vulnerability or pain. Many things discussed were very painful and embarrassing, but Franken showed no real emotion. Any time a painful or humiliating subject was brought up, Franken acted as though it was wonderful and fascinating that it was being discussed. I call bullshit on that. I think it was his way of putting a guard up. I can’t blame him, though. I do the same thing. Maybe what pissed me off are things I don’t like about myself - or things I don’t allow myself to do.

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I just sat through 37 minutes waiting for the well known voice of Franken. AL Franken. I’m a moron, Mr. Maron!

Anyways, just started listening and my ocd is kicking up trying to listen to all the podcasts.
Great show!

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